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		  | masteringmq | 
			  
				|  Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject: WMQ tool |   |  | 
		
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				| I am using two different tools to connect to my box. 
 1. WMQ tool
 2. PUTTY
 
 Using the WMQ tool I am able to create QM, display channel status, start and stop a channel and much more. However with PUTTY I am unable to display channel status and so on. It says not authorized. Is this because that my WMQ tool is tied up to my domain userid that I am able to do all the things that I am unable to do using PUTTY?.
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		  | zpat | 
			  
				|  Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:26 pm    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| More likely that WMQTool is connecting in a manner that grants you mqm group authority. 
 This is not the fault of the tool, which is excellent and supports several security options.
 
 You need to close the exposure in your MQ setup.
 
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		  | masteringmq | 
			  
				|  Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:44 pm    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| I checked my domain userid and found that it has been assigned to the mqm group. |  | 
		
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		  | Sam Uppu | 
			  
				|  Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: WMQ tool |   |  | 
		
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	| masteringmq wrote: |  
	| I am using two different tools to connect to my box. 
 1. WMQ tool
 2. PUTTY
 
 Using the WMQ tool I am able to create QM, display channel status, start and stop a channel and much more. However with PUTTY I am unable to display channel status and so on. It says not authorized. Is this because that my WMQ tool is tied up to my domain userid that I am able to do all the things that I am unable to do using PUTTY?.
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 Which platform is that?. On Unix machines you can type 'id' and see whether you logged with 'mqm' user. If you logged with your own user id(network id), then you should be part of mqm group. As you are saying you are part of mqm, then you should have all the MQ admin rights for your user id.
 
 Are you able to do
 
 runmqsc QMgrName  ?
 
 If you are able to do that, you should be able to do all the runmqsc commands.
 
 To check the channel state are you using, dis chs(channelName)?.
 
 Let us know what exactly you are issuing and what error you are getting exactly?.
 
 Thanks.
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				|  Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| The WMQ tool is installed on Windows XP platform. I am using WMQ to connect to a UNIX box where all the MQ definitions are located. Since WMQ is using my domain userid which is assigned to the mqm group therefore I can perform administrative functionality on the UNIX box using WMQ tool. 
 The error is with PUTTY. To access the UNIX box using PUTTY I am using a different userid. I believe this userid is not assigned to the mqm group. Therefore I have no administrative privilage. But I did see the administrator assigning the userid to the mqm group which I need to check again with the administrator. By right if my userid is assigned to the mqm group then I must be able to issue the mqsc command and display the channels and so on. I should not be getting the error "not authorized".
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		  | Vitor | 
			  
				|  Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:43 am    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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	| masteringmq wrote: |  
	| The WMQ tool is installed on Windows XP platform. I am using WMQ to connect to a UNIX box where all the MQ definitions are located. Since WMQ is using my domain userid which is assigned to the mqm group therefore I can perform administrative functionality on the UNIX box using WMQ tool. |  
 UNIX (obviously) is blind to Windows domains, so it's the matching UNIX id that's checked. Depending on how the tool is connecting, it could be using a different userid with administrative access rather than your Windows one.
 
 
 
   
	| masteringmq wrote: |  
	| To access the UNIX box using PUTTY I am using a different userid. I believe this userid is not assigned to the mqm group. Therefore I have no administrative privilage. But I did see the administrator assigning the userid to the mqm group which I need to check again with the administrator. By right if my userid is assigned to the mqm group then I must be able to issue the mqsc command and display the channels and so on. I should not be getting the error "not authorized". |  
 Was there a question there? Because yes, if your UNIX id is a member of the mqm group (subject to some wrinkles on some UNIX platforms) then you should have mqm access.
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		  | RogerLacroix | 
			  
				|  Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: WMQ tool |   |  | 
		
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				| Hi, 
 See my comments here , regarding Java MQ tools:
 http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=17842
 
 The reason your UserId is blocked via Putty is because have have not "spoofy-ed" your UserId to another UserId.  Since your Unix UserId is not in the "mqm" group or it has not being given privileges via setmqaut, it gets "not authorized".
 
 As I always say: "A basic setup of WebSphere MQ Server potentially allows any user to freely access any message in any queue. "
 
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 Roger Lacroix
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| Why is it when I post a short, but correct answer, people keep on asking the question? |  | 
		
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:16 am    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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	| Why is it when I post a short, but correct answer, people keep on asking the question? |  Your post was "spot on".  I was trying to explain the "why" it was a security hole.
   
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				|  Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:55 pm    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| This WMQ privilage is only given for SIT. For PRD I have no such privilage. |  | 
		
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				|  Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:56 am    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| Have you tried su - mqm in your PUTTY session? _________________
 It's puzzling, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like this before...and it's hard to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys.
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				|  Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				|  Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| What do you think that means?  _________________
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				|  Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| I dont have access to the mqm userid. |  | 
		
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		  | zpat | 
			  
				|  Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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	| RogerLacroix wrote: |  
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	| zpat wrote: |  
	| Why is it when I post a short, but correct answer, people keep on asking the question? |  Your post was "spot on".  I was trying to explain the "why" it was a security hole.
   
 Regards,
 Roger Lacroix
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 Extending the answer is fine, repeating the original question is what I find annoying.
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