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How many applications queues per QM?
<= 10
7%
 7%  [ 1 ]
11 - 25
7%
 7%  [ 1 ]
26 - 50
7%
 7%  [ 1 ]
51 - 100
14%
 14%  [ 2 ]
101 - 200
35%
 35%  [ 5 ]
201 - 500
21%
 21%  [ 3 ]
> 500
7%
 7%  [ 1 ]
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zpat
PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:42 am    Post subject: How many queues do you have per queue manager? Reply with quote

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I am interested in how many application queues are typically found on your queue managers (non-mainframe) on average (in production).

Excluding transmit, DLQ and any system queues (or system management).
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How do I vote for "All of the Above"?





Most have around 250. Some have < 10. A couple of have >1750.
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zpat
PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mode average (the one that occurs most often).
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

I always recommend clients to assign 1 queue manager per Business Unit (BU). If a BU has only 1 application then it is 1. If a BU has 50 application then it is 50.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat,

my philosophy is: One QMGR per server. On small Unix boxes I set up QMgrs with few Qs (<= 10). But I also set up QMgrs with many Qs (> 500).

My vote would be "<= 50" (I cannot select one of your given values).
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The answers suggest that QMs will less than 100 queues might well be considered underutilised. Certainly if less than 50.

I am a strong believer in concentrating queues on as few QMs as possible but am currently working at a site where this has not happened at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A QM with 49 queues might have 1000s of client channels moving thousands of messages a second, triggering lots of things, use MQ Pub/Sub, etc, etc.

So the # of queues alone is not enough to determine if a QM is underutilized. But I'm with you, QM sprawl is a bad thing, and newbies tend to think you need 2 QMs to seperate things more often than is necessary.

Our average # of queues per QMs slowly rises, and the # of QMs we have is holding steady and occasionally dropping as we identify apps that don't need a local QM and can do just fine using MQ Client into the shared MQ Farm.
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