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George Carey
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: SYSTEM Reply with quote

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A user was testing with as user id 'SYSTEM' from a windows box into a unix/solaris MQ server ... kept getting 2035 errors Not authorized.

The user 'SYSTEM' was setup on unix box and put in mqm group the whole bit, just to test but could not get past the 2035 error .

Is there anything about the user SYSTEM that is invalid to be used as a user name between windows and unix for MQ ???

I tested with an amqsputc as well and got 2035 but other userids worked.

Not a user name one would normally use but ... can one NOT use it ?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kept getting 2035 errors

Where (which platform) did you get these 2035 errors? On what object? Did you look in the error logs? What did you find?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: sun Reply with quote

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No errors in error log.
The platform is a unix/sun box as I said.

Client connection being used.

Looking for a yes/no is there anything special about user name of
SYSTEM ... if not ... not to worry I will figure out the problem

Just didn't want to waste a lot of time trying to solve something that there wasn't a solution to as I had looked for the usual suspects and did not find them. ... will next look for the unusual suspects if it is known that such a user id should give no problem !??
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: sun Reply with quote

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George Carey wrote:
No errors in error log.
The platform is a unix/sun box as I said.

Client connection being used.

Looking for a yes/no is there anything special about user name of
SYSTEM ... if not ... not to worry I will figure out the problem

Just didn't want to waste a lot of time trying to solve something that there wasn't a solution to as I had looked for the usual suspects and did not find them. ... will next look for the unusual suspects if it is known that such a user id should give no problem !??

You do remember don't you that on Unix platforms the userid is usually lower case and that MQ might just translate your uppercase windows userid to a lower case Unix one i.e. system and not SYSTEM...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:29 am    Post subject: lower case Reply with quote

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You do remember don't you that on Unix platforms the userid is usually lower case and that MQ might just translate your uppercase windows userid to a lower case Unix one i.e. system and not SYSTEM... "


Sounds like a good lead, I will pursue it ...

Thanks much ... will see
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No errors in error log.

There are error logs (plural) on both platforms, client and server.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: CLIENT Reply with quote

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I didn't set up client so I don't know it is full blown client setup up or just the jar files ... it is a Java JMS app trying to connect.

would client error log be in standard c:\programs\ibm\mq... etc directory path ? (or something like that).
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Authority Events don't get written to QM logs on UNIX like they do on Windows.

Turn on Authority Events atthe QM level and inspect the event messages to confirm the ID you think is being rejected actually is the ID (or id, as the CaSe may be)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:00 am    Post subject: AEs on QM Reply with quote

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Will do as soon as I can ...

Good info, thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: system not SYSTEM Reply with quote

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Yup indeed !

MQ does not want to see upper case user ids on unix.

The event queue message showed 'system' in message.

So I changed the user id on MQ server box to lower case 'system' and left the client user id which I tested from another solaris box at 'SYSTEM' and it connected and put and got messages just fine.

Thanks for tip.

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http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv6/v6r0/topic/com.ibm.mq.csqzae.doc/ic12680_.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:31 am    Post subject: RTFM Reply with quote

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Ah, yes the old RTFM stamp does apply!

Not sure if I read this and the celluloid in my photographic memory is fading or
if I never read it .
But looks like I will have to start a refresher trip through the manuals ... excellent cure for insomnia I hear.

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George Carey wrote:
But looks like I will have to start a refresher trip through the manuals ... excellent cure for insomnia I hear.


It will also help when the new certification exam becomes available....
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