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| amitgoelamit |
 Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:03 am Post subject: Common activity queue in MQ6.0 |
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Objective is to route all messages of activity queue on multiple QM to a common local queue on a central QM.
documentation at
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv6/v6r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.mq.csqzav.doc/csq8704.htm
Describes the steps to create and use a common queue for activity reports but, couldn't follow.
Is there any other clear documentation for the same?
Appreciate your help.
To set up a common queue, do the following:
Select, or define, a queue manager as the single node.
On the single node select, or define, a queue for use as the common queue.
On all queue managers where activity reports are to be delivered to the common queue, redefine the local system queue SYSTEM.ADMIN.ACTIVITY.QUEUE as a remote queue definition specifying the following:
The name of the single node as the remote queue manager name.
The name of the common queue as the remote queue name. |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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And of course before you attacked this project you did read the intercommunications manual? and understood the concept of multihopping? 
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| amitgoelamit |
| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Saper,
Message multihopping is about message going through connected remote queues before reaching the local queue.
Are you referring to something else?
I am looking for way to route messages from local (activity queue) on all multiple QM to a centralized local queue.
In MQ v6.0 intercommunication found interesting section intra group queuing. But, that is about 1 producer - many consumer solution. I am looking for many producer (local queues) - 1 consumer (local queue)...
It will be helpful if you can provide clues....
thanks!! |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| amitgoelamit wrote: |
Hi Saper,
Message multihopping is about message going through connected remote queues before reaching the local queue.
Are you referring to something else?
I am looking for way to route messages from local (activity queue) on all multiple QM to a centralized local queue.
In MQ v6.0 intercommunication found interesting section intra group queuing. But, that is about 1 producer - many consumer solution. I am looking for many producer (local queues) - 1 consumer (local queue)...
It will be helpful if you can provide clues....
thanks!! |
Your multihop scenario or communication between 2 qmgrs applies here. No need to go for pub/sub.
You just need to replace the qlocal with a qremote as stated. Of course for each qmgr you do that, you need an xmitq and a channel to the centralizer.
Enjoy
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| amitgoelamit |
| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: |
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I was hoping to find an alternative approach to achieve the same.
Changing the System activity queue default behavior wont be preffered.
Btw, what is model queue for system activity queue?
I can remove the local system activity queue and create another system activity queue (remote) using that model. That way characteristic of activity queue will remain same. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Plan B:
Leave all activity queues in place on individual qmgrs.
Set triggering on for each activity queue.
Write an application program that gets triggered. This program mqgets activity messages as they arrive, and mqputs them to a QRemote definition that resolves to the qmgr that is to accumulate/aggregate all the activity messages.
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Intra group queuing is a facility of WMQ on z/OS in Parallel Sysplex.
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| amitgoelamit |
| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:03 am Post subject: |
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I achieved this by creating SYSTEM.ADMIN.ACTIVITY.QUEUE as remote for a local queue on centralized QM...
Will explore trigger approach to achieve the same..
Pls let me know if there are any other cleaner approaches to do this
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| sami.stormrage |
| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:12 am Post subject: |
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That is the only solution..
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| bruce2359 |
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| That is the only solution.. |
There are always alternatives.
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| gbaddeley |
| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| There are always alternatives. |
Like using a clustered queue!
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| manicminer |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
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| That is the only solution.. |
There are always alternatives. |
Another using MQ 7 might be to try changing the queue on each queue manager to a topic alias, all publishing to the same topic, then create a subscription on the desired queue manager that puts all messages from that topic to a single queue.
This would also have the advantage of being able to add extra subscribers in the future if more things are interested in the events.
But of course that needs MQ 7 |
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| sami.stormrage |
| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:30 am Post subject: |
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They are one and the same.. only differnce being that .. A guy with a clustered network would go for a clustering solution.. 
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| amitgoelamit |
| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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hi guys!
I am so overwhelmed with the help i got at this forum..
just to show my token of appreciation...
I will explore topic and clustering approach...
and welcome other ideas!!!!
choice of approach will be on basis of least configuration changes to be done at an already MQ setup in production environment.
I have another query regarding reading the activity reports.. for that i have already posted another link ...
http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=220905#220905
thanks a lot |
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