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LMD
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: Strange problem with SSL, MO71 and MQ Explorer Reply with quote

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Joined: 30 Oct 2002
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Location: Paris - France

hello all,
we are faced a strange problem setting up secured administration for Qmgrs.

Situation :
AIX with WMQ 6.0.2.3 server
WinXPSP2 with WMQ 6.0.2.3 client and Explorer
OpenSSL

Run 1:
- With OpenSSL, creation of CA Version 1, personnal certificates for QMgr and user.
- on Aix, creation of certificate store, changes on Qmgr (SSLKEYR), ALTER CHANNEL to use CIPHER
- on Windows, creation of a CMS certificate store, MO71 configuration to use certificate store

Result : OK
- on windows, creation of a JKS certificate store, WMQ Explorer config to use certificate store and a CHLTAB
--> Result : OK


Run 2:
- With OpenSSL, creation of CA version 2, personnal certificates for QMgr and user.
Version 2 certificates have more complex DN setting, to use SSLPEER filtering.
- on Aix, creation of certificate store V2, changes on Qmgr (SSLKEYR), ALTER CHANNEL to use CIPHER
- on Windows, creation of a CMS certificate store V2, MO71 configuration to use certificate store
--> Result : OK

- on windows, creation of a JKS certificate store V2, WMQ Explorer config to use certificate store and a CHLTAB
--> Result : KO :
- error 4043 on explorer
- not any error message on server side, nor in errors/AMQERR01.LOG or qmgrs/<QMName>/errors/AMQERR01.LOG.

On the last two days, we have tried this on two workstations, with 4 sets of CA, certificates, with 2 differents Qmgrs, with different settings of CHLTAB ...

We have tested the chltab with an amsputc on the client side, no problem. So AMQCHLTAB should not be the culprit.
We have also build chltab from server side and MO72 on client side.
Same certificates run OK with MO71 and a CMS store, so certificates should be ok.
The JKS store have been created with STRMQIKM, both from scratch and "save as JKS" from a the CMS version. So the JKS store should be ok also.

The problem is the "silent failure" of the Explorer, exactly like he don't like certificates and/or store.

Is there any way to put this one in "debug mode" to have more detail on the offending parameter ?

Thanks in advance, LMD.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you starting the Windows MQ Explorer with the requisite java flags? -vmargs -D <keystorevar>=<keystorefile> -D<certstorevar>=<certstorefile> etc....

Enjoy
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LMD
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

Joined: 30 Oct 2002
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fjb_saper wrote:
Are you starting the Windows MQ Explorer with the requisite java flags? -vmargs -D <keystorevar>=<keystorefile> -D<certstorevar>=<certstorefile> etc....

Enjoy

No.
With version 1 certificates, MQ Exporer work without these flags.

But if there is any solutioin to pass the JKS store password with these flags, I'am interested !

I also have to mention that Version 2 certificates works with MO71 to Qmgr and Qmgr to Qmgr.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LMD wrote:
But if there is any solutioin to pass the JKS store password with these flags, I'am interested !
I'm new to all this but was playing around with SSL connections from the Message Broker Toolkit to a config manager. The RedPaper I was reading says you must use
Code:
-Djavax.net.ssl.keyStorePassword=yourpassword

if your password for the JKS store is anything other than "changeit".

Very secure
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi fellows,

First certificates were generated with an email address. Later certificates don't contain this field.
MQ Explorer is a Java application.. and Java is suspect to request this field to be able to work with the cerificates !!!

In fact after re-generating the certificates with a fullfilled email adress field, MQ Explorer is able to handle the certificates and ssl is working perfectly !

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