ASG
IBM
Zystems
Cressida
Icon
Netflexity
 
  MQSeries.net
Search  Search       Tech Exchange      Education      Certifications      Library      Info Center      SupportPacs      LinkedIn  Search  Search                                                                   FAQ  FAQ   Usergroups  Usergroups
 
Register  ::  Log in Log in to check your private messages
 
RSS Feed - WebSphere MQ Support RSS Feed - Message Broker Support

MQSeries.net Forum Index » WebSphere Message Broker (ACE) Support » AMQ7469 daignostic help

Post new topic  Reply to topic
 AMQ7469 daignostic help « View previous topic :: View next topic » 
Author Message
WBI_user
PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:29 am    Post subject: AMQ7469 daignostic help Reply with quote

Partisan

Joined: 07 Aug 2001
Posts: 386

I am using WMB 61 csd 5 and MQ 6021 on AIX

We experienced an intermittent production failure of a message flow which uses Java node to get all messages in group from a queue. The error was MQRC 2241. Because we use syncpoint, we can rerun the flow and it will always run fine the second time. This seems to us the all messages are there on the queue.
Everytime we had the failure, we noticed an AMQ6479 error a few minutes before the failure.

The explaination fir the error is:
"The log space for the queue manager is becoming full. One or more long-running transactions have been rolled back to release log space so that the queue manager can continue to process requests."

We are using circular logging with 10 primary and 5 secondary log of 160K each. For a total space of 2.4G. The total number of messages handled by the flow around that time was about 20K with a total of only about 140M. I understand that there must be other things using the log and more diagnostic work must be done.

So I need some hints from anyone to help me to narrow things down a little more.
1. It was MQ that reports the AMQ7469 which says "One or more long-running transactions have been rolled back to release log space" But it does not tell us which one. How does MQ select which one to roll back ? Will it select the MQ uses one first (i.e. MQ processes which may have open UOW) before any user application? If it had select an user application, should I expect to see error reported by the application ? I asked all application users who may have application running at the time of error. But no one siad that they have problem.
2. If it is not user application. MQ must have rolled back some MQ process or broker processes. But I cannot find any other errors in the syslog of my AIX system.

Any help ?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Vitor
PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: AMQ7469 daignostic help Reply with quote

Grand High Poobah

Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Posts: 26093
Location: Texas, USA

WBI_user wrote:
1. It was MQ that reports the AMQ7469 which says "One or more long-running transactions have been rolled back to release log space" But it does not tell us which one. How does MQ select which one to roll back ? Will it select the MQ uses one first (i.e. MQ processes which may have open UOW) before any user application?


WMQ doesn't use transactionality. Applications (which in this context includes WMB) use transactionality. As to which is selected for rollback I'll be guided by wiser minds.

WBI_user wrote:
If it had select an user application, should I expect to see error reported by the application ?


It could be an MCA trying to put a message, in which case it would be in the WMQ log, but that's not usually long running enough to have a problem.

WBI_user wrote:
I asked all application users who may have application running at the time of error. But no one siad that they have problem.


Or they could have a problem in their error trapping.

WBI_user wrote:
2. If it is not user application. MQ must have rolled back some MQ process or broker processes. But I cannot find any other errors in the syslog of my AIX system.


As I said above, WMQ wouldn't roll back a broker process, just pass it an error.
_________________
Honesty is the best policy.
Insanity is the best defence.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic  Reply to topic Page 1 of 1

MQSeries.net Forum Index » WebSphere Message Broker (ACE) Support » AMQ7469 daignostic help
Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Protected by Anti-Spam ACP
 
 


Theme by Dustin Baccetti
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Copyright © MQSeries.net. All rights reserved.