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bay hoe san
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:32 am    Post subject: Websphere MQ Internal Activities Reply with quote

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Hello,

1. Any expert know what are MQ internal activities?
2. In Concepts & Planning, appendix B -> MULC (Measure Usage License Charges with WMQ z/OS), it states that amount of processing time is recorded in a file at hourly intervals... Does the file refers to SMF? Is the manual refer to SMF type 115 and 116. If not, what are being recorded?
3. Thank you.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: Websphere MQ Internal Activities Reply with quote

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bay hoe san wrote:
1. Any expert know what are MQ internal activities?


They are the activities internal to WMQ, and are of no interest to any expert outside Hursley in normal usage.


bay hoe san wrote:
2. In Concepts & Planning, appendix B -> MULC (Measure Usage License Charges with WMQ z/OS), it states that amount of processing time is recorded in a file at hourly intervals... Does the file refers to SMF? Is the manual refer to SMF type 115 and 116. If not, what are being recorded?


Yes.
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bay hoe san
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hello,

1. Thanks for your replies.
2. The sentence mentioned "hourly interval". Is the hourly refers to system time?
3. If my customer wishes to know more about MQ internal activities, where can they get hold of such info?
Thank you for all your advises.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bay hoe san wrote:
2. The sentence mentioned "hourly interval". Is the hourly refers to system time?


What else is it going to be? An hourglass on the sys prog's desk?

I don't understand the question.

bay hoe san wrote:
3. If my customer wishes to know more about MQ internal activities, where can they get hold of such info?


Another question I don't understand. All the information needed to install, configure and tune the product is in the documentation. The internal information is possibly propretory and no use to a customer.

You might as well ask what processes CICS or DB2 uses internally, or how z/OS manages disc access internally. Most of this level of process can't be modified by the end user easily, and distaster will likely result if a method is found!

If your customer has such questions which they feel are not addressed in the documentation, then a PMR is the way to obtain such answers.
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"hourly interval" applies to non linear time in multiple dimesions that are only relevant to the observers passage in time.
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You might as well ask what processes CICS or DB2 uses internally, or how z/OS manages disc access internally.

There's a difference between 'how it works' and 'exactly how it works.'

Unlike midrange platforms, for z/OS systems and its sub-systems, much information on how things work is documented, and discussed in performance and tuning classes and reference manuals.

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Most of this level of process can't be modified by the end user easily, and distaster will likely result if a method is found!

Exits abound in z/OS. This gives users some ability to modify the usual behavior to meet customer needs.
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bruce2359 wrote:
Unlike midrange platforms, for z/OS systems and its sub-systems, much information on how things work is documented, and discussed in performance and tuning classes and reference manuals.


Quite so; as I said above all the information needed to install, configure and tune is documented. Because of the z/OS architecture (IMHO) you get much more choice & options with the configuration.

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Most of this level of process can't be modified by the end user easily, and distaster will likely result if a method is found!

Exits abound in z/OS. This gives users some ability to modify the usual behavior to meet customer needs.


Again, these are documented exit points, not modifications to the underlying processes.
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