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jeevan
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: I could not revoke the authority of SYS CLUSTER XMITQ Reply with quote

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D:\>DSPmqaut -m XXXXXXXX -p USER -t queue -n SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE
Entity USER has the following authorizations for object SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSM
IT.QUEUE:
put
inq

D:\>setmqaut -m XXXXXXXX -p USER -t queue -n SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE -all

The setmqaut command completed successfully.

D:\>DSPmqaut -m XXXXXXXX -p USER -t queue -n SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE
Entity USER has the following authorizations for object SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSM
IT.QUEUE:
put
inq

Any clue why I can not do that?

I also did refresh but still the same.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With the same command, I was able to revoke permission of the other queeus and qmgr but I could not do that for the xmitq.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Possibly because the user is member of a group that has access to the cluster xmitq?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
Possibly because the user is member of a group that has access to the cluster xmitq?



No, I am able to revoke the permission from other object for that user but I can not do for the particular object. That is why I post here thinking that whether there is any thing special withh this. I rem, it has to be authorised at the beginning to put the message across but now, they do not need it and when i want to revoke, I could not.

It is mq6.0.2.2 on windows 2003.
Any thinkg that I can check for ?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jeevan wrote:
fjb_saper wrote:
Possibly because the user is member of a group that has access to the cluster xmitq?



No, I am able to revoke the permission from other object for that user but I can not do for the particular object.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dmpmqaut the auts for the S.C.T.Q. and see what groups have access to it and see if USER is in one of those groups.

Just becasue you successfully removed USER's auts to other objects doesn't prove anything. Maybe those other objects weren't covered by a group USER is in like S.C.T.Q. might be.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PeterPotkay wrote:
dmpmqaut the auts for the S.C.T.Q. and see what groups have access to it and see if USER is in one of those groups.

Just becasue you successfully removed USER's auts to other objects doesn't prove anything. Maybe those other objects weren't covered by a group USER is in like S.C.T.Q. might be.


I saw that the USER is in the domain group *staff which the user who has still permission to SCTQ belongs to.

The thing is like this:

this user used in Dev. but the user used in Dev and Test belong to the same group *staff.

Therefore, the permission is granted based on principal not based on group.

But still the condition is the same.

If being in exactly in the same group, I can revoke its permission to other queues, and qmgr but why not on this ? I am just wondering.


I showed to my colleague, thinking that I missed something, the same result.

Any clue /brainstorm
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Therefore, the permission is granted based on principal not based on group.

Wrong... Group permission takes precedence in most cases.
You can remove all permissions from the principal. If he is in the mqm group he will still have full access...

In fact in Unix there is no principal permission. It gets set to the primary group of the principal...

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