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| cvag |
 Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:12 am Post subject: MB Vs ICS |
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Hai
Can anybody pls explain me the differences between MB and ICS?
Wat are the advantages of MB over ICS and why we go for migration from MB to ICS?
Pls provide the link for documentation or any ppt?
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| Gaya3 |
| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:24 am Post subject: |
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there are quite some difference between ICS and MB
i wonder why you are migarting MB to ICS, as i heard that IBM is withdrawing the support of ICS.
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| cvag |
| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Sorry It was mistaken i need ICS to MB Migration not from MB to ICS
Pls provide the documentation on ICS to MB or any link
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| Gaya3 wrote: |
| IBM is withdrawing the support of ICS. |
You should decide which features of ICS you are really using, and move to either WMB v6.1 or Process Server.
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| cvag |
| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: |
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| I want to know the purpose of migrating WBI ICS 4.3 to Message Broker 6.0.I will appreciate if any one can help me out regarding this. |
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| cvag wrote: |
| I want to know the purpose of migrating WBI ICS 4.3 to Message Broker 6.0.I will appreciate if any one can help me out regarding this. |
The purpose is that ICS will not be supported any more!
The other purposes depend entirely on what you are using ICS for.
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| mrgate |
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| jefflowrey wrote: |
| cvag wrote: |
| I want to know the purpose of migrating WBI ICS 4.3 to Message Broker 6.0.I will appreciate if any one can help me out regarding this. |
The purpose is that ICS will not be supported any more!
The other purposes depend entirely on what you are using ICS for. |
Jeoff,
I am not aware of ICS technology but heard that ICS cant handle large volumes of data. Is it right?
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| mrgate |
| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Sorry for posting response second time. In the previous reply, I have written a statement that "ICS cant handle large volumes of data" that means Websphere ICS cant handle large volumes of data where as Message Broker can.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: |
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It doesn't matter what ICS can or can't handle.
It's going away. Don't use it.
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| AkankshA |
| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| cvag wrote: |
| I want to know the purpose of migrating WBI ICS 4.3 to Message Broker 6.0.I will appreciate if any one can help me out regarding this. |
purpose of migrating could be as ICS is going away...
reason for choosing MB completely depends on your company... could be as vague as they hv MB licenses or could be that all the functions which MB is doing in your firm can be done by only MB
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| satya2481 |
| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
The main reasons/purposes of moving from ICS to WMB could be...
1. IBM taking back the support from ICS
2. ICS needs adapters to communicate with external world for example in order to Read/Write mesages from/to Queues it needs WMQ Adapter, similarly JMS adapter needed to interact with JMS objects. If you switch from ICS to WMB no need to use these adpters.
3. WMB provides most of the features provided by ICS
But instead of migrating ICS to WMB my suggession is migrate to WPS.
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| Gaya3 |
| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| satya2481 wrote: |
The main reasons/purposes of moving from ICS to WMB could be...
1. IBM taking back the support from ICS
2. ICS needs adapters to communicate with external world for example in order to Read/Write mesages from/to Queues it needs WMQ Adapter, similarly JMS adapter needed to interact with JMS objects. If you switch from ICS to WMB no need to use these adpters.
3. WMB provides most of the features provided by ICS
But instead of migrating ICS to WMB my suggession is migrate to WPS.
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MB requires Adapter to communicate with third part pplications/softwares in some scenarios.
though adapter is existing no issues in migrating to MB.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| Gaya3 wrote: |
| MB requires Adapter to communicate with third part pplications/softwares in some scenarios. |
At least some of the JCA adapters now run natively in Broker 6.1, and it should be no secret that this is a strategic direction.
Even so, the WBI Adapters can be used with MB without using ICS.
Although you should avoid them if at all possible. They're really annoying.
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| JLRowe |
| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:34 am Post subject: |
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WPS is a much stronger fit to ICS:
It's java based
Relationships/Data objects are in there (although the APIs have changed, there are migration tools)
It does compensation
Stronger JCA adaptor integration (design time imports)
| satya2481 wrote: |
Hi,
The main reasons/purposes of moving from ICS to WMB could be...
1. IBM taking back the support from ICS
2. ICS needs adapters to communicate with external world for example in order to Read/Write mesages from/to Queues it needs WMQ Adapter, similarly JMS adapter needed to interact with JMS objects. If you switch from ICS to WMB no need to use these adpters.
3. WMB provides most of the features provided by ICS
But instead of migrating ICS to WMB my suggession is migrate to WPS.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| JLRowe wrote: |
| Stronger JCA adaptor integration (design time imports) |
Broker v6.1 does this... 
As I said,
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| You should decide which features of ICS you are really using, and move to either WMB v6.1 or Process Server. |
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