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Mehrdad
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: CRL Checking & SSL Handshake performance concern Reply with quote

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My project calls for the local queue manager to connect to a remote queue manager over a secure channel for message exchange. My question is related to performance on such a connection.

It is my understanding that, if enabled, CRL checking occurs with the negotiation of the SSL handshake. How frequent will the SSL handshake process take place? We have a concern that if this is something that happens a lot, CRL checking against a remote LDAP repository (our certificate is issued by a remote CA) could impose a severe performance penalty. Reading through the documentation I was not able to find references to this issue.

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Eric
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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An overview of the SSL handshake

To control how often after the initial handshake those keys are renegotiated:
Resetting SSL secret keys

The MQ Info Center is your friend!
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mvic
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PeterPotkay wrote:
An overview of the SSL handshake

To control how often after the initial handshake those keys are renegotiated:
Resetting SSL secret keys

The MQ Info Center is your friend!

I would normally agree completely. Unfortunately I read both those links and didn't see any reference to when CRLs are consulted as part of the whole scheme.

I searched a bit more and found slightly more at the page "Accessing CRLs and ARLs" at http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv6/v6r0/topic/com.ibm.mq.csqzas.doc/sy12700_.htm

This suggests it is when a certificate is received that the CRL is consulted. I don't see a clear statement about CRLs being consulted, or not, at any other times in the life of an SSL MQ channel. Maybe time for a call to IBM Support, if authoritative answers can't be found elsewhere...
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erichknipp
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: Thanks, everyone Reply with quote

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I still don't have a perfect answer but this goes a long way towards getting me there.

Also, many thanks to Mehrdad for helping me out when I could not login.

Eric
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BenjaminTallmadge
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: inactive channel means SSL renegotiation? Reply with quote

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doesn't the SSL negotiation also happen when the channel goes from inactive to active? I thought the TCP connection was dropped when the channel went inactive and the session key would be discarded.
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