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Monk
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: MQ interface or SOAP interface???? Reply with quote

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Hi All,

I need some help with the following design.

my requirement is as follows

we have the portal making a request to EAI server to the AS/400 for certain details.
Now this is a simple request/reply scenario.
Currently we have this setup. But

Portal -> EAI server -> AS/400

But as you can see the portal has to put a MQ message(request message) to the EAI server and the EAI server goes to AS/400 thru MQ and gets the response to the portal . again thru MQ.
Portal -> MQ -> EAI server -> MQ -> AS/400

I was wondering , if its a good idea to do the following

Portal -> SOAP/HTTP -> EAI server -> MQ -> AS/400.

what i m tring to do is replace the Portal MQ interface with SOAP interface to EAI server and basically expose the EAI server as a Web service.

So what design is better .
1. Portal MQ interface to EAI server.
2. Portal SOAP interface to EAI server.

Note that its a synchronous request / reply scenario and portal to EAI servers messages need not be persistant messages.

any ideas/suggestions on this design would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
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AkankshA
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: MQ interface or SOAP interface???? Reply with quote

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Monk wrote:

Note that its a synchronous request / reply scenario and portal to EAI servers messages need not be persistant messages.



Synchronous and if msg lost is not that big a deal then i would go for Portal SOAP interface to EAI server anyday.
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Monk
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thanx.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you have any problem in the current setup?

Another import criteria is message load !!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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while this maybe semantics - your question really is

1) should you use MQ or HTTP to connect to the AS400

SOAP data can flow over multiple transports including HTTP or MQ... if I were doing this I'd want as minimal changes as possible and just leave the MQ interface as is...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you want to go soap I'd go soap over JMS/MQ.
In my limited experience SOAP over MQ is faster than soap over http
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In my limited experience SOAP over MQ is faster than soap over http

Why and how is SOAP over MQ faster than SOAP over HTTP?.
Is it becoz of the webserver?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Monk wrote:
In my limited experience SOAP over MQ is faster than soap over http

Why and how is SOAP over MQ faster than SOAP over HTTP?.
Is it becoz of the webserver?


In my request reply scenario SOAP over MQ I get answers in < 100 ms with an average of about 80 milliseconds of processing... the rest is transformation, transport and queue time (< 4 ms) ...
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