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| marc.jackson |
 Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: How to install both V5.3 and V6.0 on unix platforms |
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Has anyone managed to have both V5.3 and V6.0 installed on unix servers.
I need to have both available to compile against on hp/ux, aix, Solaris and Linux.
I do not need to run both at the same time but having the ability to easily switch from one to the other would be good.
Setting up a directory structure with say;
/opt/mqm which is a symlink to either of
/opt/mqm60
/opt/mqm53
and then having something that restores the symlinks that are in
/usr/include and /lib or /usr/lib.
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Can't do it. You can only have one version of MQ installed on a server to have a supported installation.
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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One word: Virtualization 
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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You can't do it with symlinks.
You can do it by fooling around with mount points.
I don't recommend doing it that way.
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| gs |
| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| I'd try a CHROOT setup. Definately not symlinks and preferrably virtualization. |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Another word: Mainframe!
UNIX and Windows are just single user systems with inflated egos! |
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| marc.jackson |
| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:30 am Post subject: How to install both V5.3 and V6.0 on unix platforms |
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Thanks for the Ideas, especially the mount.
Unix is not the limitation here it is MQ series. Our build systems have 3 version of Oracle, two versions on DB2, and collect systems data off Solaris, AIX, HP/ux and Linux. we should not have to duplicate 20 or so servers to support two version of MQ series!
We have code that needs to be linked to the mqm libraries and MQ include files, we need to be able to build it for version 5.3 and 6.0. Our code that uses the 6.0 version will run on a users 5.3 installation and collect the performance metrics fine. We need to be able to produce patches for the old 5.3 version. so we need to have the 5.3 version there as well.
We utilise PCF to obtain information on the following MQ objects:
Queues,
Channels,
Queue Managers,
Messages
and Processes (not under Win 32)
(warning sales talk here) this then provides the data for our Prognosis performance monitoring sytem.
As for comments about Unix being the problem, In 1990 I worked on the successful implementation of the Australian N.S.W Roads and Traffic Authority Driver Licensing and Vehicle Registration System. THis system supported over 1,000 concurrent users at 150 Motor registries through out the state of NSW. This was implemented using Oracle 6.0 on Unix System V release 2.2 (1983) that had 4.2 tcp/ip stack for networking. Police, insurance companies and Hospitals also accessed this for licensing and rego information.
The server had 384Mbytes of ram and the equivalent of a A Pentium 3 @ 450Mhz in instructions per second. It gave sub second response to update license details etc. The server a Fujistsu M1800 mainframe.
There is plenty of flexability in unix.
I will try mounting and finding what files are symlinked from
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Mainframe has been the only platform that has ever let you install multiple copies of MQ on it.
That said, if you just need to COMPILE code, you can copy files from a v5.3 machine into a given location on the compilation machine, and copy files from a v6 macihne onto a different location.
How many machines you have to build in order to perform proper QA testing is an entirely different question.
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| jefflowrey |
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You should also consider whether it makes business sense for your company to support your product fully on versions of WMQ that are no longer supported by IBM... MQ v5.3 goes out of support sometime very soon or a few days ago.
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| gs |
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| Talking of it, end of life for 5.3 is actually today. |
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| marc.jackson |
| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: How to install both V5.3 and V6.0 on unix platforms |
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The reason we have to support 5.3 is it is the latest version for
Tandem NSK.
I will try one platform over the weekend and let people know.
thanks
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:21 am Post subject: |
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Well, that means you only have to support v5.3 on NSK... and not on Solaris and Linux and HPUX and AIX and...
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