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George Carey |
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: JMS - ETC and XAQCF, QCF transport settings |
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Knight
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 500 Location: DC
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Trying to find documentation/info on two Java/JMS items.
1.) In Websphere MQ version 6 Using Java manual appendix F speaks to using the Websphere MQ Resource Adapter for connection to MQ as an external Message Service Provider. On p650 it says there is a RAR file in /opt/mqm/java/lib/jca directory and that it contains a number or Jar files.
I have the MQ Server installed and have all the individual jar files in directory above (i.e. java/lib) that would be contained in this RAR file. But there is no JCA directory and no *.rar file anywhere. Is this a separate product or do you just create a RAR file from the needed *.jar files ?
2.) Trying to find the settings one would set the 'transport' attribute in a XAQCF definition for JNDI if I have the Extended Transactional Client and want to set up a connection to MQ Server that allows Client binding and yet is transactional. So do I use 'transport (bind)'?? or 'transport(client)'? or something else and do I use XAQCF or QCF for my connection factory definitions ??
Having trouble searchind N manuals for the answer. If anyone has example JNDI definition settings that would be great!! _________________ "Truth is ... grasping the virtually unconditioned",
Bernard F. Lonergan S.J.
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jefflowrey |
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Grand Poobah
Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 19981
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You need to be at 6.0.2.1 or later to get the Resource Adapter.
You would use transport(client) and configure the QCF to be transactional. _________________ I am *not* the model of the modern major general. |
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George Carey |
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:50 am Post subject: rar and jndi |
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Knight
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 500 Location: DC
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Excellent, thanks for the quick and precise reply! I will test it out.
An addition thought comes to mind, I have MQ server 6.0.1.0 installed and as I said have all the jar files and am connecting to MQServer from Oracle App Server, what would/does the WS MQ Resource Adapter give me that I don't have ? _________________ "Truth is ... grasping the virtually unconditioned",
Bernard F. Lonergan S.J.
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jefflowrey |
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Grand Poobah
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The Resource Adapter might be officially supported, where Oracle App Server might not be.
But there are different support agreements for ETC - so take that with a grain of salt.
There may be different licensing impact, as well. _________________ I am *not* the model of the modern major general. |
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George Carey |
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:33 am Post subject: Jndi and ETC |
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Knight
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The Resource Adapter might be officially supported, where Oracle App Server might not be. |
Hmm? Not quite as precise.
Looking for technical/software capabilities that might be different from a 6.0.1.0 version of MQ and one with the WS MQ Resource Adapter. Adherence to JCA standards is the key supported question I believe. If Oracle app and MQ both say they support/adhere to it they should be able to talk(which they are...not the issue) but still trying to understand what WS MQ RA is over and above what I have in MQ 6.0.1.0 . _________________ "Truth is ... grasping the virtually unconditioned",
Bernard F. Lonergan S.J.
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jefflowrey |
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Grand Poobah
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The ETC in particular is only supported on very specific J2EE app servers. I forget if Oracle App Server is one of those or not. JBoss, as a specific example, is not.
The Resource Adapter is officially supported on any J2EE app server that is compliant with a specific J2EE standard. Like JBoss. _________________ I am *not* the model of the modern major general. |
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George Carey |
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:13 am Post subject: RA etc |
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Knight
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 500 Location: DC
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Ah, Je comprend maintenant (Je pense?).
So I take it that WS MQ RA is not different from MQ 6.0.1.0 except from what is supported perspective and to watch out for issues with ETC for supported app server(oui?). Will do.
(a French bug bit me ... not sure why the French otherwise? ) _________________ "Truth is ... grasping the virtually unconditioned",
Bernard F. Lonergan S.J.
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jefflowrey |
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Grand Poobah
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The WS MQ RA is supplied as part of the 6.0.2.1 release of WebSphere MQ, so it's not different from WebSphere MQ, but it is different than WebSphere MQ 6.0.1.0...
The only problems you'll have with French here is a) getting FJ excited (unless it's bad French), and b) making Roger think you're Quebecois.
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George Carey |
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:55 am Post subject: JNDI and French |
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Knight
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No not a Quebecois. But born and raised just across the Lake from Quebec and Toronto - (Lake Ontario that is ) but am an Upstate NewYorker(Rochester) with 4 years of French under my belt from high school and college years(ancient history), that hopefully still is somewhat syntactical and semantically correct (probably not idiomatically).
I have actually pre-honeymooned in Old Town Quebec, Chateau Frontenac and the boardwalk on the St. Laurence and the like ... and am basically a Francopile ... but not French ... mai, en l'esprit peut-etre. _________________ "Truth is ... grasping the virtually unconditioned",
Bernard F. Lonergan S.J.
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fjb_saper |
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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and am basically a Francophile ... but not French ... mais, en esprit peut-etre mais pas en la lettre, il me semble?
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George Carey |
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Knight
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 500 Location: DC
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Il est vrai que j'ai dit :
'that hopefully still is somewhat syntactical and semantically correct (probably not idiomatically). '  _________________ "Truth is ... grasping the virtually unconditioned",
Bernard F. Lonergan S.J.
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