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| ashley5 |
 Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: SAVEQMGR on MQ 5.3 and different CSDs. |
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Hi There,
I'm trying to backup my queue managers, but some are failing to connect from my backup QM. My Backup QM is running on 5.3 CSD10, as are most of my servers, but it would seem some of the ones I've taken over are running 5.3 without ANY CSD, and one of them is on CSD12. Now I can backup all managers that are on machines running CSD10, but the others just won't work. I've setup the Sender/Receiver channels exactly the same as the CSD10 machines, and they connect as is to my backup QM, but SAVEQMGR won't connect.
This is what I get when I submit my command.
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C:\>saveqmgr60 -v 53 -m MQ_BACKUP -r MQ_C1_01 -f MQ_C1_01.txt
SAVEQMGR V6.0.3
Compiled for Websphere MQ V6.0 on Aug 22 2006
Requesting attributes of the queue manager...
(mqutils.c) No reply msg, make sure command server is started (strmqcsv qmgr-name) |
Any ideas? I've planned the upgrade to all the servers to CSD12, but it takes about 3-4 weeks to get these things approved, and in that time, we don't have any form of backups on the QM. |
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| wschutz |
| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Umm....I've never heard of any problems with saveqmgr not getting a response due to CSD levels ....
I don't know how many people are using multihop (ie -r), I suspect most people would use the client version instead (saveqmgrc) ....
If you do want to use -r, then you'll need to see where its failing (messages on DLQ, anything in amqerr01.log, etc....)
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| ashley5 |
| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Well, I've tried using the Client version, but now I get a different error:
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C:\>saveqmgrc -v 53 -m MQ_BACKUP -r MQ_C3_01 -f MQ_C3_01.txt
SAVEQMGR V6.0.3
Compiled for Websphere MQ V6.0 on Aug 22 2006
With no client connection information specified.
MQCONNX failed for MQ_BACKUP, CC=2 RC=2058 |
I've looked in the DLQ on both QMs, there are no errors (beside the Starting of Sender channels) in the error files.
Maybe I've got the whole concept wrong, so let me explain what I'm trying to do. I use my dev box to monitor all the QM's I look after, so I'm trying to centralise all control to the one machine, including JMS and Backups.
Am I entering parameters correctly? I've created a QM called MQ_BACKUP, that I'm using to funnel all the backups through. The machine is running Windows 2003 and MQ 5.3 with CSD 10. I'm connecting to 5 other machines (1 QM on each) all with Win 2003 and MQ 5.3 - 2x CSD 0, 2x CSD 10, 1x CSD 12. I can connect without problem to the machines with CSD 10 but the other 3 all timeout if I use saveqmgr.exe program, and the above error if I use saveqmgrc.exe. I've created the Sender/Receiver channels between the QMs and MQ_BACKUP. I've created the transmission, and Remote definition queues. Everything has been done the same for all QMs, but only the non-CSD10 QMs won't backup. |
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| wschutz |
| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:43 am Post subject: |
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I suggest using saveqgmrc from your dev box rather than using MQ_BACKUP. Its a simplier configuration.
However, you need to understand how the MQ client works. What you did with saveqmgrc will only work if you have MQ client tables setup. The other option is to use the -x -a options on saveqmgrc:
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If either the -a or -x switch is used, then MQCONNX will be used for the client connection
-a host : is the address of the host for a client connection (default is "localhost")
-x channel : is the SVRCONN name for a client connection (default is "SYSTEM.DEF.SVRCONN")
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so you can do something like:
saveqmgrc -a MQC3HOST(1414) -f MQ_C3_01.txt
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| ashley5 |
| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| Great! Thanks for your help. It's working like a charm now. |
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| JD9955 |
| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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once you create a backup using 'saveqmgrc' how can you re-create your qmgr from the created file?? which command will do this..
also, will everything be restored (i.e. channels, listeners (obviously queue's) , etc .. ) ??
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| JD9955 wrote: |
once you create a backup using 'saveqmgrc' how can you re-create your qmgr from the created file?? which command will do this..
also, will everything be restored (i.e. channels, listeners (obviously queue's) , etc .. ) ??
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1) Why have you posted on a year old thread?
2) Have you LOOKED at the output of saveqmgr? It might give you a clue.... 
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| The machine is running Windows 2003 and MQ 5.3 with CSD 10. |
CSD 10 is not stable with JMS. You should move to a higher CSD ...(11 or above).
Best move to 6.0.2.2 
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
| Best move to 6.0.2.2 |
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| JD9955 |
| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| JD9955 wrote: |
once you create a backup using 'saveqmgrc' how can you re-create your qmgr from the created file?? which command will do this..
also, will everything be restored (i.e. channels, listeners (obviously queue's) , etc .. ) ??
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1) Why have you posted on a year old thread?
2) Have you LOOKED at the output of saveqmgr? It might give you a clue.... |
1a) There is no point in creating a new thread as this thread was talking along the same line about using the saveqmgr command. 1b) If the forum didn't want people to post to "old" threads, it should have restrictions in place. Don't have a go at me because I was allowed to post to what you call an "old thread".
2) Yes I have looked at the output of the command; and I was wondering what command to use to re-create the queue manager. I have now found out that you just have to pipe it to runmqsc. .. You should realise, when learning something new, everyone starts at the bottom... |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| JD9955 wrote: |
| [1a) There is no point in creating a new thread as this thread was talking along the same line about using the saveqmgr command. |
No, the existing thread is talking about using saveqmgr in a multi-queue manager environment and establishing connectivity. Your question conerned the use of saveqmgr in a very general way.
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2) Yes I have looked at the output of the command; and I was wondering what command to use to re-create the queue manager. I have now found out that you just have to pipe it to runmqsc. .. You should realise, when learning something new, everyone starts at the bottom... |
If you can't recognise runmqsc script at a glance, that's closer to the basement than the bottom.
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