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| rossired |
 Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:33 am Post subject: QPasa views |
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Hi all,
Is there an easy way to see if an object has a template associated with it, without having to browse every template ? For example, when I look at a queue properties view, I don't see what templates it may be associated with. I would think I can find this out without having to look at the associations of every template, no ?
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| jsware |
| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: |
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According to my QPasa guru colleague, it is not possible to look at an object and determine which templates are associated with it. You can only browse thru each template and see which objects are associated to it 
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| rossired |
| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| scottj2512 wrote: |
| According to my QPasa guru colleague, it is not possible to look at an object and determine which templates are associated with it. You can only browse thru each template and see which objects are associated to it |
Ok, thanks for asking.
That sounds like it could be a pita. Perhaps its not something that comes up that often ( needing to figure out which templates an object has been associated with ).
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| fjb_saper |
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It is certainly possible. However you would need to write a SQL query to obtain this information.
I don't believe there is a search function in the GUI that delivers you that kind of result.
Enjoy 
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| jsware |
| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
It is certainly possible. However you would need to write a SQL query to obtain this information.
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This is what we're trying to work out at the moment
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:31 am Post subject: |
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| scottj2512 wrote: |
| fjb_saper wrote: |
It is certainly possible. However you would need to write a SQL query to obtain this information.
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This is what we're trying to work out at the moment |
Talk to their support. They are quite good at helping you...
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
It is certainly possible. However you would need to write a SQL query to obtain this information.
I don't believe there is a search function in the GUI that delivers you that kind of result.
Enjoy |
I'm wondering if the sql query can be used to return information into one of the widgets in a view... interesting.. will have to check that out
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| jsware |
| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
| Talk to their support. They are quite good at helping you... |
That is exactly what we are doing...
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Hi
You can use the tool appwatch instead of qpasa.
Appwatch is 100 times better than qpasa and it is a web based tool.
You can have lot of GUI options.
Whenever you are flooded with lot of requests from client,appwatch is the tool which will save your time.
Trial version is avaialble in www.mqsoftware.com
I havebeen using this for more than 2 years and feel very comfortable |
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| jsware |
| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| muthum_2000 wrote: |
| Appwatch is 100 times better than qpasa and it is a web based tool. |
They are different tools intended for different purposes. We use both appwatch and QPasa.
AppWatch can't raise an alarm when channels go bad.
AppWatch can't display a graphical topology of your MQ network with nice red/green lines for the channels.
AppWatch can't show you near real-time message throughput.
AppWatch can't keep a history of mq attributes (enq/dequeue counts, rates, qdepths, high depths, channel attributes etc) to allow KPI reporting etc.
AppWatch does give you a browser based, viable alternative to deploying MQExplorer/MQMON/QPasa config tool/whatever is your developer tool of choice to 100s of developers using MQ across your estate.
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AppWatch can't raise an alarm when channels go bad.
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Yes, it can. The AppWatch event monitoring function can do that sort of stuff. The Queue Manager dashboard can show you what's going on in the queue manager. Qstats can show high depth and other statistics maintained by the queue manager.
It's all agent-less which I like. Nice and simple, not over-complex and over-expensive.
We are trialling AppWatch (version 4) and I have to say it's pretty good - MQsoftware now own it as well as Qpasa. |
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Agentless usually means "Uses PCF messages".
Which doesn't do you much good if the command server is not running, nor is it much good for things like "start the queue manager".
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| We are not doing automated correction. We are doing application monitoring primarily. |
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| zpat wrote: |
| We are not doing automated correction. We are doing application monitoring primarily. |
In or out of MQ Bandwidth?
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
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AppWatch can't raise an alarm when channels go bad.
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Yes, it can. The AppWatch event monitoring function can do that sort of stuff. |
By raising an alarm, I mean actively "prod" me when channels go bad. I was not aware that it can send me an email, or page me out of hours to let me know that the channel I am not watching via my browser because I am at home has gone into retry.
However, since we use QPasa and AppWatch we have the event monitoring stuff disabled because we don't need it.
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