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smeunier
PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:13 am    Post subject: Static vs. dynamic queues Reply with quote

Partisan

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Location: Green Mountains of Vermont

In high volume Request/Reply scenarios, is is better to used static queues or dynamic queues? High volume meaning hundreds of transactions per/second.

These messages will be non-persistent, so both models apply, but I get concerned about slopy Client programming tactics leaving orphaned dynamic queues and the headache with cleaning them up. On the other hand, they are one - one with the request.

I favor a static queue implementation with reply get on correl id. This reduces overhead with dynamic queue allocation and clean up, but also implies hundreds of attachments to the reply queue. As you can tell, I also prefer a single(or few) reply queues as well.

I anticipate shallow queue depths perhaps hoving arounf 50-100 messages. The messages will have short lived expiry periods as well, as the replies are for synchrnose responses. So the expiry will ve very short.
So every get will imply cleanup by the queue manager of expired messages before retrieving its reply message. This is a normal function of the queue manager, so this should not be an issue.

I guess I'm looking for validation on using static reply queue(s) vs. dynamic. Or contradiction if the case may be.

Opinions?
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JT
PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Padawan

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Have you seen this thread: http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=28947
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smeunier
PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Partisan

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I have to chuckle , the scenario fits my scenario to a T, but the opionions vary, with no real direction. The overriding factor here is performance. And I think thast resides with Static definitions. It would be real easy for me to create business entity reply queues for seperation of replies.

The "fright factor"in temporary dynamic is delayed replied and terminated clients, leaving replies to go to SDLQ.

I think it comes down to 6 of one half dozen of another. But that was a real good reference.

Thanks
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JT
PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Padawan

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I think it comes down to 6 of one half dozen of another

Then perhaps the solution that is easiest to adminster/maintain can you lead you to one over the other.
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tleichen
PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yatiri

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You mentioned a message volume, but it was not clear as to how many dynamic queues you would be potentially allocating. Also, I was curious about what platform(s) are involved here. Cleaning up dynamic queues is not too difficult. We wrote and application to do it periodically on z/OS. Just my two cents.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Since 5.3 WMQ reuses dynamic queues, so the overhead with creating a new dynamic queue is much less than it was previously.
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