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| solkit |
 Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:05 am Post subject: Broker networking |
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If I want to make Broker network then do I need WebSphere Message Broker product?
I'd like to know whether I can make the Broker Network systme without WebSphere Message Broker product or not.
If I can, Anyone knows any documents about how to make Broker Network System?
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| sourdas2 |
| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:51 am Post subject: |
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To create new broker u'll not need to install Message Broker( i.e run time component, no need to install toolkit, if u use want pub - sub then u also need to install event broker). And for broker u will need a database for Broker Database.
If the broker alredy exists(i.e broker is in anothe system and broker queue manager is in your system), u will just need to connect the broker queue manager by sender receiver channel pair along with transmition queue.
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| sourdas2 |
| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| solkit |
| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:14 am Post subject: Thanks |
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| sourdas2 wrote: |
To create new broker u'll not need to install Message Broker( i.e run time component, no need to install toolkit, if u use want pub - sub then u also need to install event broker). And for broker u will need a database for Broker Database.
If the broker alredy exists(i.e broker is in anothe system and broker queue manager is in your system), u will just need to connect the broker queue manager by sender receiver channel pair along with transmition queue. |
Thanks for repling.
If I just need to connect the broker queue manager by sender receiver channel pair along with transmition queue then how it is working in clustering.
If I make a cluster with 4 queue managers then can I use broker network between 4 queue managers with out sender receiver channel pair (Because the channels are automatically created in Clustering system).
And an other question.
If If I just need to connect the broker queue manager by sender receiver channel pair along with transmition queue then how can I make the broker hierarchy?
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| sourdas2 |
| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:51 am Post subject: |
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Hi solkit,
intercommunication between broker to broker and broker to configuration manager is done through MQ as an underlying protocol. So the queue manager need to communicate for exchanging information within broker to broker or configmanager to broker.
It can be using clustering or queue manager intercomm. No problem for that.
And also connenect configmgr queue manager with all the broker qmanager as u like...
I could not understand this portion..
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| If If I just need to connect the broker queue manager by sender receiver channel pair along with transmition queue then how can I make the broker hierarchy |
If this is broker domain then u have to create a domain and add the brokers in the domain.For that u need to intall WBIMB toolkit.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:08 am Post subject: |
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You do not need Message Broker to make a network of publish/subscribe brokers.
The "Publish/Subscribe User's Guide" in the MQ Information Center will fully detail how to create a broker network using the base MQ broker. If you can find a Korean translation! 
Each broker is tied to a particular queue manager. In order to connect them, you must first connect each queue manager together. You can do this with MQ Clustering, or you can do this with regular sender/receiver channels.
Once the queue managers are connected, you can then connect the brokers to each other, by specifying the name of the parent broker on the strmqbkr command.
In base MQ Pub/Sub, brokers are connected in a tree structure - with one broker being the root broker. Using Message Broker, you can do different types of topologies.
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| solkit |
| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:37 am Post subject: Thanks ^^ |
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| jefflowrey wrote: |
You do not need Message Broker to make a network of publish/subscribe brokers.
The "Publish/Subscribe User's Guide" in the MQ Information Center will fully detail how to create a broker network using the base MQ broker. If you can find a Korean translation!
Each broker is tied to a particular queue manager. In order to connect them, you must first connect each queue manager together. You can do this with MQ Clustering, or you can do this with regular sender/receiver channels.
Once the queue managers are connected, you can then connect the brokers to each other, by specifying the name of the parent broker on the strmqbkr command.
In base MQ Pub/Sub, brokers are connected in a tree structure - with one broker being the root broker. Using Message Broker, you can do different types of topologies. |
Thank you very much.
There is no differnces between Queue manager networks and Broker networks. Am I right?
I will make some clustering queues and distributed queues and test the pub/sub.
One thing what I want to know is the commed to test pub/sub on MQ itself.
There are amqsput(amqsputc) and amqsget(amqsgetc) to test put/get messages. but there should be the topic to use pub/sub so are there any command to test pub/sub as amqsput and amqsget to test put/get messages? Or shold I test it with application only?
thanks ^^
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:41 am Post subject: |
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The IH03 support pack includes the "rfhutil" and the "rfhutilc" program, which can be used to test pub/sub.
There is a difference between an MQ network and a pub/sub network. The pub/sub network sits on top of the MQ network, and allows for a broker on one queue manager to distribute a publication that was given to a broker on another queue manager.
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