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nboucher
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 9:19 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

I have 2 questions. I am currently not sure if there is a way in MQWF to simulate the following:

1) "HOLD" functionality for a workitem

let's take for example a work item that is assigned to persons that
are part of a Role. If a person start working on that work item but do not completed it because some information are missing, would it be possible to put the work item on hold for a specific amount of time. After that period of time,
if the period of time is passed, then I would like the work item to be reassigned to the users part of that role

2) “ask for review/comment” to another user on a work item
In that situation, I would like basically to send/transfer a copy of my workitem to another user for "review/comment".

Thanks for any idea/comment,

Nadine
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vedbhat
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 9:40 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

1) I think U are refering to Suspend. It is possible to suspend and resume the activity later but it doesnt allow you to re-assign the acitivity to all the users.

2) I dont think this is possible.

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nboucher
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 5:05 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ved,...or all

Thanks for your answer.

The administrator of the process can suspend the workitem...do you know if it is possible
to suspend it for a specific duration of time?

Thanks, Nadine
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jmac
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 6:31 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nadine:

I would consider using Expiration with the time limit coming "From Container". Then when the item does expire if you have it inside a block, you just make certain that the Block Exit condition fails, and the item will be "re-broadcast" to the original staff

As far as the "review" goes, I would probably use a separate activity for this. But if you must use the same one, you could issue the Transfer to the appropriate user via the API.
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nboucher
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 10:14 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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John,

Thanks for your previous answer/solution...

As far as the "review", you're are right that would be in a separate activity...
I know that I can used the "Transfer" method however the "Transfer" method do not allowed me to
keep a copy of this workitem in my worklist. Is there a way that I could send a copy of a workitem to somebody for review while keeping mine???
Should I also used the Expiration as you describe in your previous email for this also?
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vedbhat
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 6:28 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

Transfer function allows you to transfer your workitem or workitem belonging to any other person to which you are authorised to another person. This function doesn't keep a copy in your worklist also If I am not wrong you can transfer workitem to only one person.

There is no need to set expiration when you transfer. You need to use only for the suspension case which you asked for.

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nboucher
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 6:48 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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THANK YOU!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 9:54 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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John,
You refer to using Expiration with the time limit coming from container. This is a feature I see our Organizatin using a lot due to additional information needed in order to complete the work. We have a need to pend work for days. You state when the item does expire and if you have it inside a block, you just make certain that the block exit condition fails, and the item will be 're-broadcast' to the original staff. 'Original staff'- Is that anyone assigned to that role? Or, does that mean back to the original person that (for better words)initiated the suspend/pend/expiration? If original staff means anyone, could this be changed and go back to the 'original person'?

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jmac
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2002 5:53 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes this could go back to the original person with proper modeling. The trick will be to do the Staffing "From pre-defined members". You default the Role to the Role of the people assigned (_ACTIVITY_INFO.MemberOfRoles), AND you map the person who actually ran the activity into People (_ACTIVITY_PEOPLE). This takes advantage of the Staffing algorythm that says, when Using Predefined members, People will override everything else.

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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2002 6:23 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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THANKS for the reply
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