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guest468
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Messages disappeared from the queue Reply with quote

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We have a high influx of messages to a QMGR hosting couple of queues in it. The incoming message rate is about 500/sec at QMGR level. Yesterday we stopped the applications since we had some issues with d/b. But today morning when I checked there are only a couple hundred messages sitting in the queue (last midnight when I checked each queue was having almost a million messages). These are all non-persistent messages. The filesize limit is set to unlimited and we have more than 200GB filesystem space available. I am not sure how these messages disappeared from the queues. Does the QMGR cleans up the non-persistent messages when the queue file size reaches certain size?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Were the messages set to expire after a period of time?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi
All messages are having expiry parameter set to unlimited (-1)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did the app get restarted and consume the messages?
What is the value of ipprocs?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IPPROCS is zero for all the queues. Applications were never started,I checked the was system logs.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Was the qmgr bounced ?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nope it wasn't. There are couple of people having access but I highly doubt anyone cleaned the queues accidentaly.
Is there any possibility of QMGR cleaning up the messages from the q queue under some circumstances(other than boune)?
This is linux (2.4.21-47.0.1) running 32 bit HW/OS/MQ. I assume there is no limit on q file size?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't know of any situations where messages just disappear. I'd be suspicious of somebody running a program that 'accidentally' removed the messages when it shouldn't have.
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Someone did something to cause these messages to be removed.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Forgive if this is obvious and you've done it already..... But what entries do you see in the queue manager log from midnight until the morning?
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