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| HubertKleinmanns |
 Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:55 am Post subject: WebSpher MQ vs. WAS embedded MQ |
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Shaman
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Hi Guys,
since yesterday I thought, the embedded MQ in a WebSphere application server (WAS) is not able, to set up message channels to other QMgrs. Yesterday I did a small test:
1. I had a short look to the default objects defined on the embedded QMgr, created by WAS, and found no channel definitions - except one SVRCONN channel.
2. Then I started the embedded QMgr, using the command strmqm -c.
3. Now I found all default objects, as I would expect on normal QMgrs.
4. Last but not least, I created a channel to another QMgr, pinged and started it sucessfully.
All works fine, so now my questions:
a) Is there any difference between the embedded MQ and the full version?
b) What's about licensing, when I create message channel on embedded MQ QMgrs?
c) May I update the embedded MQ by installing the normal CSDs?
d) When I install first a full MQ version, remove all default objects (and the iKeyman package), and install WAS afterwards: Do I need a full MQ license or is it licensed by the WAS license (like - as far as I know - for the embedded MQ).
e) How are these scenarios supported by IBM?
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| vennela |
| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:52 am Post subject: |
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I don't think what you have is embedded MQ (but I might be wrong).
You might have installed MQ first and then WAS. In this case I think all it does is create a QMGR.
If you do it the other way, like install WAS and select embedded MQ and then install real MQ, that's when you will know what really will happen. |
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| HubertKleinmanns |
| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:40 am Post subject: |
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Shaman
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| vennela wrote: |
I don't think what you have is embedded MQ (but I might be wrong).
You might have installed MQ first and then WAS. In this case I think all it does is create a QMGR.
If you do it the other way, like install WAS and select embedded MQ and then install real MQ, that's when you will know what really will happen. |
Vennela,
I did not install it myself, but I asked my administrator and checked the install dates. He installed WAS as you described and selected the embedded MQ server yesterday.
Right now he is installing a newer version of WAS and I could verify, that also the MQ versions already have been upgraded (new CSD).
I am talking about AIX.
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| bower5932 |
| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| What is the name of your qmgr? Issue the dspmq command. WAS creates a very specific type of name for its embedded qmgr (something like WAS_hostname_server1). |
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| HubertKleinmanns |
| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Shaman
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| bower5932 wrote: |
| What is the name of your qmgr? Issue the dspmq command. WAS creates a very specific type of name for its embedded qmgr (something like WAS_hostname_server1). |
I have no direct access to the machine, but I have seen such a strange name yesterday.
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| HubertKleinmanns |
| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Shaman
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| HubertKleinmanns wrote: |
| bower5932 wrote: |
| What is the name of your qmgr? Issue the dspmq command. WAS creates a very specific type of name for its embedded qmgr (something like WAS_hostname_server1). |
I have no direct access to the machine, but I have seen such a strange name yesterday. |
I asked my admin now. The name is WAS_DefaultNode_server1.
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