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Gorki
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Channel initiator initiate nothing [Resolved] Reply with quote

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Hi,

I set up a configuration in cluster with 4 servers
S1, S2 -> Windows based servers
A1, A2 -> AIX based servers

There is channel defined explicitly:
S1->S2
S2->S1

A1->A2
A2->A1

S1->A1
S1->A2

S2->A1
S2->A2

I know i don't normally need so much, but it doesn't matter.

All is running perfectly when my channels from S* to A* are running. But when they come inactive the channel initiator (which is running) doesn' restart them.

- there is no global error log
- there is no system error log
- there is only the normal deactivation messages for the channel from S* -> A*

So, I don' see any activation message for the channels.
Another problem maybe related : the channels takes up to 5 mn from S*->A* to becomes running they are initializing during this time. No performance problems noted afterthat.

My questions are :
- how to control that channel initiator wants to start the channels
- can we have more traces ?
- is the slow startup can prevent channel initiator to display its messages ?

If you can help
I can also put some configuration stuff if you wants. But S and A are in different networks, there is no login / password on the channels, the configuration is the default one and we checked that it is the same on the 4 servers.

Thx !

S.


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wschutz
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you saying that you have setup the channels to be triggered, messages arrive on the xmitq, and then the channels aren't being triggered (started)?

Also, is your conname a IP address or a host name..sometimes lazy DNS servers can slow down IP address resolution.....
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Nigelg
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are these cluster channels? if so, the normal channel triggering techniques do not apply, i.e. xmitq atributes INITQ TRIGGER TRIGTYPE.

At MQPUT to a cluster queue the qmgr starts cluster channels from INACTIVE.
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Gorki
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote:

Are you saying that you have setup the channels to be triggered, messages arrive on the xmitq, and then the channels aren't being triggered (started)?

Also, is your conname a IP address or a host name..sometimes lazy DNS servers can slow down IP address resolution.....


Yes the channels don't seem to be triggered when new messages arrive.
We use IP and no DNS name.

Quote:

Are these cluster channels? if so, the normal channel triggering techniques do not apply, i.e. xmitq atributes INITQ TRIGGER TRIGTYPE.

At MQPUT to a cluster queue the qmgr starts cluster channels from INACTIVE.


Yes, this is cluster channels. I maybe made a mistake in xmitq attributes.
The channels are inactive and are not becoming running
I will check the channel triggering techniques in this case.
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Gorki
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a doubt....

We defined a local queue :
S1.QL.CHINIT

just with :
DEFINE QLOCAL (S1.QL.CHINIT)

for the queue manager S1

and afterthat we start the channel initiator with :
amqmdain crtchi S1 S1.QL.CHINIT

Is it the right way to do it ?
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Mr Butcher
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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does not look too bad on a first view.

how did you set up your xmitqs for channel tringgering?
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Gorki
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I resolve my problem !!

The channel initiator was checking the queue S1.QL.CHINIT, but as this is a cluster, the channel initiator MUST listen :
SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ

Once I modified this, restart the CI, all works perfertly, channels come up in a few seconds, and are restarted when deactivated.

Thanks for all your help, it really give me a clue to resolve this.
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You should not have needed to create the channel initiator, or change any setup of an existing one.

Did you forget to set the CLUSTER name on your cluster channels?
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Gorki
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, the channels had the cluster_name correctly configured.

But, we configured explicitely a channel initiator, maybe it was the error ?
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wschutz
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gorki wrote:
No, the channels had the cluster_name correctly configured.

But, we configured explicitely a channel initiator, maybe it was the error ?
To repeat what Nigel said earlier:
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Are these cluster channels? if so, the normal channel triggering techniques do not apply, i.e. xmitq atributes INITQ TRIGGER TRIGTYPE.

You must not define triggering on the cluster xmit queue...
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