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PisgahMan
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:52 am    Post subject: Trigger type of first 'correct' for channel init? Reply with quote

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We saw a situation where a remote queue manager went down and messages built up on the local XMIT queue. I assumed that when the remote QM came back up the messages would drain but they did not.

I assume this is because the trigtype is first and my understanding from the admin guide is that is only triggered when the depth goes from 0 to 1.

A steady stream of over 1 million messages a day(really in an 8 hour period) pass thru this queue, so
setting it to trigger on any/every message doesn't really make sense(I don't think)

Is this a case where you would just restart and/or reset the channels on each end, or I am making some incorrect assumptions about trigtype?

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mvic
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:57 am    Post subject: Re: Trigger type of first 'correct' for channel init? Reply with quote

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Is it possible to just leave your channels up and running all day? (Channel retry logic should then take care of outages like this). It sounds like you have the throughput to justify this approach...
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KramJ
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You could toggle the trigger on the triggered queue. Set the queue to NOTRIGGER and then back to TRIGGER and it will start triggering.
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wschutz
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I assume this is because the trigtype is first and my understanding from the admin guide is that is only triggered when the depth goes from 0 to 1.
No, thats not true. A trigger event will occur at qmgr startup when the channel initiation (runmqchi) starts and opens the initiation queue. When that happens, the qmgr goes around and looks at all the queues that name the initation as their INITQ, and creates a trigger message for that queue (provided it would normally meet the trigger condition). So, for example, all queues that have messages on them and TRIGTYPE=FIRST would cause a trigger message to be generated.

Of course, there's also TRIGMPRI, which says "don't count messages with a priority less than this. So, if you have a queue with 100 messages, all with priorty=3 and if the TRIGMPRI=5, then no trigger message would get generated.
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EddieA
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I assume this is because the trigtype is first and my understanding from the admin guide is that is only triggered when the depth goes from 0 to 1.

You can also get a trigger when the TRIGINT interval expires. But the default value for that is around 11 1/2 days.

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