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klamerus
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:23 pm    Post subject: Large message not working Reply with quote

Disciple

Joined: 05 Jul 2004
Posts: 199
Location: Detroit, MI

We're using MQs to route some documents around. In general, these are < 100 KB each, but occasionally a file can get really large (like a PCL or PS print file).

We just had one of these "blow out" the default 4 MB message limit, so we were going to look at the root cause and at the same time set the limit up to 10 MB. We do expect we may get these from time to time (and all the work on the messages is on the same box regardless).

We've set the queue manager limit to 10 MB (10,000,000 bytes) and the same for the queue in question, but when we try to run a test and put a file that's about 6.5 MB on the queue we get a 2102 message back.

Is there another parameter we need to set somewhere?
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sebastianhirt
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yatiri

Joined: 07 Jun 2004
Posts: 620
Location: Germany

Just for the sake...

Code:
2102 (X'0836')MQRC_RESOURCE_PROBLEM
Explanation:
There are insufficient system resources to complete the call successfully.

Completion Code:
MQCC_FAILED

Programmer Response:
Run the application when the machine is less heavily loaded.

On z/OS, check the operator console for messages that may provide additional information.
On HP OpenVMS, OS/2, i5/OS, Compaq NonStop Kernel, and UNIX systems, consult the FFST record to obtain more detail about the problem.


Any FFST's?
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bbburson
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Large message not working Reply with quote

Partisan

Joined: 06 Jan 2004
Posts: 378
Location: Nowhere near a queue manager

klamerus wrote:
We've set the queue manager limit to 10 MB (10,000,000 bytes) and the same for the queue in question, but when we try to run a test and put a file that's about 6.5 MB on the queue we get a 2102 message back.


Are you using client connections to get to the queue manager? If so, your SVRCONN channel has to be changed to accept larger messages (and CLNTCONNs if you use the channel table to derive your connection parameters).
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klamerus
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject: Maybe Reply with quote

Disciple

Joined: 05 Jul 2004
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Location: Detroit, MI

Hmmm,

We'll I'm doing the current testing from my laptop to an MQ installation on my laptop, so I would think that I'm not using client connections. I'll take a look.

I don't know what a FFST is. This is all Windows. Is that something unique to another platform.

I would be surprised (but not shocked) if it was my laptop, which has 2 GB of RAM in it. The message is big, but it's not that big.
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kevinf2349
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grand Master

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You did remember the transmission queue and channel defs too..right?
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sebastianhirt
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Maybe Reply with quote

Yatiri

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klamerus wrote:

I don't know what a FFST is. This is all Windows. Is that something unique to another platform.


FFST= First Failure Support Technology. Or just the fancy word for a fdc file.
kevin,
if it was the channel defs, wouldn't you get some message to big for channel rather then a 2102?
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kevinf2349
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grand Master

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kevin,
if it was the channel defs, wouldn't you get some message to big for channel rather then a 2102?


Hmmmm probably would
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EddieA
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FFST= First Failure Support Technology. Or just the fancy word for a fdc file

And you find them in either <MQ Install Dir>\errors or <MQ Install dir>\qmgrs\<QMGR Name>\errors.

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Mr Butcher
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Padawan

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how is your queuemanager logging settings? do you have enough logs to hold the message data? especially when using circular and the defaults with 3 primary and 2 secondary you have 5mb logspace, nd that is not enough to hold a 6.5 mb (persistent?) message.
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JT
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Padawan

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Quote:
......when we try to run a test and put a file

By what means ?
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zpat
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Council

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When you go beyond 4MB, check the size of transmit queues, sender channels, receiver channels, svrconn channels, client channel table, dead letter queues - as well as the application queues and queue manager limit.
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RichA
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My money's on the log files, the others would return a different error.
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