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sharknose
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: AMQ8135 error when using MQ with WAS5.1 Reply with quote

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Hi,

Posting here in the hope that someone can help me with an MQ problem that has started occurring when using MQ5.3 (on Solaris) with WebSphere Application Server 5.1.

I installed WAS using embedded MQ/JMS messaging, and am using the queue manager that WAS creates during install. Whenever WAS is running, it is not possible for me create, ammend, or clear queues belonging to the queue manager, if I try and do so, I get AMQ8135 - Not authorised. If WAS is shutdown, all these operations work ok. I have tried using setmqaut to grant my user permissions on the relevant objects, but it does not seem to make any difference. The strange thing is, when we first installed WAS, this problem did not occur, I'm not aware of anything that we've done that would have lead to it occurring.

Any suggestions gratefully received.

Thanks,

D
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Read the admin manuals.

A number of operations are not allowed while the queue is in use (iprocs or oprocs > 0).

This is normal behavior!

However you should not be getting a "not authorized" but an "object in use" message. Don't know if internal WAS qmgr has some additional stuff that while WAS is running only the user running WAS can do changes ??

Normally all setup stuff is done in WAS config anyway....remember this is not a full version...

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sharknose
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
Read the admin manuals.

A number of operations are not allowed while the queue is in use (iprocs or oprocs > 0).

This is normal behavior!


Ok, I realise that I wouldn't be able to clear a queue whilst something is attached to it, but I should at least be able to do a DISPLAY QLOCAL(qName) without getting an error. I've also never had any problems creating new queues whilst applications are attached to the queue manager.

Also not sure what you mean by "it's not a full version" - the MQ installation we have is a full blown MQ5.3 server installation, WAS has just been configured to work with it (so it's not some MQ-lite version that ships with WAS5.1).
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you sure you shouldn't be allowing WAS to create queues for you, within the WebSphere JMS Provider?
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bower5932
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Whenever WAS is running, it is not possible for me create, ammend, or clear queues belonging to the queue manager


If you are trying to do this with runmqsc, you shouldn't be. Since you are using the embedded qmgr, you should be using WAS to do your administration.
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sharknose
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Surely I should at least be able to display the attributes/depth of a queue using runmqsc, even if WAS created the underlying QMGR?
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not sure about that but you should be able to get the information using MS0B support pack.

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hopsala
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have never worked with the embedded mq myself, but had talked with a few people about it who have lots of experience working both ways; the general accord was "don't use it, it's <censure>, use a regualr qm installed seperately", and that I pass on to you...
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