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| hemendra123 |
 Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject: regarding the MB infrastructure set up |
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Hello,
we have started developing a project as team. I would like to know what is the best way (practise) in the development. we have sufficient licenses as well.
I assume that every developer will have a Websphere Tool kit installed individually in their host and each will have individual config mgr and all sharing the same remote broker. please let me know if there is a better approach.
I was also wondering if there is there a possibility have a remote configuration shared across the tool kits.
Your suggestions are highly appreciated.
Thanks
Hemendr
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:09 am Post subject: |
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I don't know how other people have done it.
I've done it with a single broker and config mgr for the development environment. Then a separate set of brokers/configmgrs for test and production.
Every developer then has a full product install, including a local configmgr and broker - this is apparently part of the license (the last time I asked). They also have permissions to connect to and manage the development configmgr/broker. They do not have permissions on the test or prod environments.
Developers can then do full unit testing locally, and integration testing in dev, and then stuff gets promoted through admins and etc. to the test and then eventually prod environments.
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| CHF |
| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:44 am Post subject: |
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We're doing something Jeff said. We are on z/OS and our company didn't buy licences for a Windows boxes..
So our dev, test, prod are on z/OS seperate LPAR's. Every developer have toolkit or control center installed on the local machine and connectes to mainframes dev environment.
I know unit testing and devlopment is little tough this way... but got used to it 
Hope this helps.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:05 am Post subject: |
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It may be different for WBIMB/zOs, but licensing for WBIMB/Distributed includes full product installs on any number of developer machines for local testing only - the brokers can't be connected to any other machine. So you may be able to set up your developers to do unit testing this way, rather than in a shared development environment.
As with all licensing questions, ask your IBM sales rep.
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| moorej_gl |
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| With a full install on every developer workstation, wouldn't administration become kind of tedious? Or are developers then responsible for applying patches to, upgrading, and generally maintaining their own broker environment? |
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| moorej_gl wrote: |
| Or are developers then responsible for applying patches to, upgrading, and generally maintaining their own broker environment? |
Yes. Just like the rest of their development tools.
Or through the normal means your shop has of maintaining any software on workstations/desktops.
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| javaforvivek |
| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Jeff,
How do you do the change-version management? Do you use tools like PVCS or Clearcase? Or is it not needed in your work environment?
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| javaforvivek wrote: |
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How do you do the change-version management? Do you use tools like PVCS or Clearcase? Or is it not needed in your work environment? |
I'm not actually using Broker in my current work environment.
But yes, version control happens through a version control system, and promotions from environment to environment happen through version control systems and normal change management procedures.
There are very few projects that don't need version control of some sort or another - and I doubt that any project involving broker is one of them.
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