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| whizkid_va |
 Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:05 pm Post subject: MQ component in Websphere Application Server |
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Hi,
Websphere application server (WAS 5.0) comes with embedded MQ component, has anyone of you made use of it.
In our scenario, we have an application that needs to be deployed on WAS and this application sends messages to MQ server, I am sure that I can make use of MQ component in WAS but before going with it I would like to ensure that I would not be runing into any problems as it is very critical application.
I would really appreciate your help. Thanks |
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| malammik |
| Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Before you can know whether you can utilize was 5.0 embedded messaging, you need to answer AT LEAST these 3 questions that come to mind.
Will your queue manager need to talk to other queue managers?
Will clients other than JMS clients need to connect to the queue manager?
What are your availability, reliability requirement?
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| whizkid_va |
| Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Will your queue manager need to talk to other queue managers?
>> No, Message is delivered to MQ server from WAS and there ends the MQ role
Will clients other than JMS clients need to connect to the queue manager?
>> No
What are your availability, reliability requirement?
>> It is moderate, I am mainly concerned with question: WILL I HAVE ANY ADVANTAGES IF INSTALL MQ CLIENT ON TOP OF WAS 5.0 (OR) CAN I LIVE WITH MQ COMPONENT IN WAS
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| whizkid_va wrote: |
Will your queue manager need to talk to other queue managers?
>> No, Message is delivered to MQ server from WAS and there ends the MQ role |
And what happens then. Does the message stay indefinitely in MQ ?? This is not a valid response...
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Will clients other than JMS clients need to connect to the queue manager?
>> No |
I believe the better question here would be does any client outside WAS need to connect to the queue manager and how do you plan to do it ??
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What are your availability, reliability requirement?
>> It is moderate, I am mainly concerned with question: WILL I HAVE ANY ADVANTAGES IF INSTALL MQ CLIENT ON TOP OF WAS 5.0 (OR) CAN I LIVE WITH MQ COMPONENT IN WAS
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It really depends on what you need the qmgr for. If it is just for asynchronous decoupling inside WAS -- go for it.
If it is to move stuff from and to WAS you might seriously want to consider a "real" MQ manager. Depending on need for 2 phase commit you will have some choices and $$ to face.
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| malammik |
| Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Bottom line is that if you need messaging for some peripheral was to was messaging, go with embedded messaging. I personally, always recommend clients going with external jms provider such as full blown mq deployment because I most of them grow out of embedded messaging very quickly. Once again, this is my preference, not necessarily a correct way to do it.
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| bower5932 |
| Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| Of course, if you are just now getting started on WAS 5.0, you can consider starting with WAS 6.0. It has its own messaging engine (different from WMQ) and an MQLink component to get out of WAS and into WMQ. You'd then need to get the full WMQ product which you may have been doing anyhow. |
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| whizkid_va |
| Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Thanks guys for all your replies
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