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elvis_gn
PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:06 pm    Post subject: CleanUp server stop permanently Reply with quote

Padawan

Joined: 08 Oct 2004
Posts: 1905
Location: Dubai

Hi,
I'm having a problem that my cleanup server is running automatically at 00:00 everyday....i have not set this in the FDL but found the setting in the Admin utility.

I dont want the cleanup server to run.....how can i fix this......


Will i haveto touch the Network settings????
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elvis_gn
PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Padawan

Joined: 08 Oct 2004
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If it is not possible to deselect cleanup can someone tell me how could it be possible that the cleanup server is deleting the process instances of one of the templates and deleting that template too.

I have another template in the client...this template is not touched neither are its process instances deleted.....

Can someone explain....????

I have not made any settings in the NETWORK, and on checking it anyway, found that everything is in inherited state.....

Plz help...this is a serious issue for me during production
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hos
PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chevalier

Joined: 03 Feb 2002
Posts: 470

Hi,
you desparately need to read the manuals, if you want to run MQWF in a production environment! Believe me: if you design and implement your applications without knowledge of the workflow concepts you will run into problems that cannot be resolved via this forum, sooner or later! MQWF is a heavy-weighted product and needs careful installation, configuration and maintenance planning.

The function of the cleanup server is to physically delete finished process instances and related workitems. You specify the cleanup server settings in the buildtime. If you do not change the settings the inherited default values are used. The Administration Guide contains some recommendations how set the cleanup server settings in the buildtime to
improve performance.
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vennela
PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

Joined: 11 Aug 2002
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If it is not possible to deselect cleanup can someone tell me how could it be possible that the cleanup server is deleting the process instances of one of the templates and deleting that template too.

Cleanup server will not automatically delete the workflow objects. Like Hos mentioned in the above post, it will do physical deletes.
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elvis_gn
PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Padawan

Joined: 08 Oct 2004
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Hi thanks for the posts...believe me i have no say in my working in MQWF....its either this way or the highway.....I knew MQ and MQSI and was the only guy free at the time

Anyway, could u tell me why possibly would the cleanup server remove the process template from the client.

And ur telling me that only the finished process instances and its workItems are removed....i am myself deleting the process instances from the workflow once they are over....so the ones still on the client are not completed...hence they cannot be possibly removed.....

Is it possible that if some workItems are in disabled state, their process instances will be removed ????
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jmac
PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

Joined: 27 Jun 2001
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elvis_gn wrote:
Anyway, could u tell me why possibly would the cleanup server remove the process template from the client.

I do not understand the question, why would you want to remove the template?
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And ur telling me that only the finished process instances and its workItems are removed....i am myself deleting the process instances from the workflow once they are over....so the ones still on the client are not completed...hence they cannot be possibly removed.....

Unless you have selected the option immediate cleanup, then when you "delete" you are logically deleting. Physical deletes are done by the Cleanup server.
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Is it possible that if some workItems are in disabled state, their process instances will be removed ????

Not sure I understand the question... If the Process instance is complete then it can be deleted, if not, it will remain

You really do need to do some reading.

Who will post an answer quickest Vennela or jmac
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vennela
PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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Is it possible that if some workItems are in disabled state, their process instances will be removed ????

NO

John Wins
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