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Pete
PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:06 am    Post subject: Channel error between SunSolaris and AS400 Reply with quote

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Hi All,

I think this is an underlying network issue but I hope someone will respond to confirm I'm not missing something obvious...

I have a SunSolaris and AS400 server both running WQ5.1 server, with bi-directional communication over sender-receiver channel pairs (standard MQ setup) which works fine.

I need to change the IP address of the AS400 server from 3.123.123.123 to 172.123.123.123. Network changes have been made and I am able to ping both adresses from the Solaris command line.

When I change the MQ sender channel configuration from 3.123.123.123 to 172.123.123 I cannot successfully start the sender channel with error:
Quote:
01/02/05 02:57:25 PM
AMQ9202: Remote host '172.123.123.123 (1414)' not available, retry later.

EXPLANATION:
The attempt to allocate a conversation using TCP/IP to host '172.123.123.123
(1414)' was not successful. However the error may be a transitory one and it
may be possible to successfully allocate a TCP/IP conversation later.
ACTION:
Try the connection again later. If the failure persists, record the error
values and contact your systems administrator. The return code from TCP/IP is
145 (X'91'). The reason for the failure may be that this host cannot reach the
destination host. It may also be possible that the listening program at host
'172.123.123.123 (1414)' was not running. If this is the case, perform the
relevant operations to start the TCP/IP listening program, and try again.


From speaking to the network adminstrator I understand the 3.123.123.123 is a direct connection whereas the 172.123.123.123 undergoes a network address translation to 10.xxx.xxx.xxx (not sure of the full address yet).

My question is: am I correct in thinking that MQSeries will work fine if using network address translation i.e. aslong as there is a valid TCP/IP network the channels will run, therefore is the problem more likely a network issue such as routing problem or firewall issue?

I am aware that 5.1 is no longer in support, however the client is not looking to upgrade and I don't believe this is the issue here.

Also, if anyone can point me in the direction of the TCP/IP return codes on a Solaris server that would be much appreciated.

Anyhelp appreciated,

Regards,

Pete
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bbburson
PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Channel error between SunSolaris and AS400 Reply with quote

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Pete wrote:
Also, if anyone can point me in the direction of the TCP/IP return codes on a Solaris server that would be much appreciated.


From /usr/include/sys/errno.h on a Solaris machine:

Code:
#define ETIMEDOUT       145     /* Connection timed out */
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And a timed out error likely indicates either an incorrect NAT mapping or an intentional port blocking for port 1414 (or failure to intentionally unblock) in the NAT rules.

At least in the situation you describe.
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you want a better feel if it will work, do a command line telnet, rather than a command line ping. Lots of times the network guys / firewall guys will not allow pings, but will allow telnet, or vice versa. An MQ channel looks more like a telnet session than a ping. If the telnet fails, you know its not an MQ problem.
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EddieA
PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And you can always telnet to the MQ Listening port. It thows an error to the log, but it shows that the connection has been made to the correct box and the correct port. Especially if the firewall guys don't like you to use telnet and block that as well.

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Pete
PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All,

Thanks very much for your replies. I'm now waiting for the network teams to make there changes....

Thanks again,

Pete
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