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nahsay
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:33 pm    Post subject: Migration from WebMethods to WBIMBv5? Reply with quote

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I am currently researching a possible migration path from webMethods to WBIMBv5. Is it possible and has anyone done this?

None of the RedBooks [ Migration to WebSphere Business Integration Message Broker V5 ] or IBM Help documents [ http://www-306.ibm.com/software/integration/wbimessagebroker/library/ ] seem to discuss this migration.

Any help or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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kirani
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I dont think you will find direct migration path for this.
I am not familiar with Webmethods, but try searching in google.
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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this a theoretical question or did you run into a customer who has Webmethods and now has/is deciding to go for WBIMB?

I don't think you will find any migration tools as this requires a lot of knowledge about Webmethods and WBIMB.

I am interested in knowing the reasons for this change in direction!
Can you elaborate as to why your customer/company want to do this?
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nathanw
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Even tho the 2 applications do teh same thing they do it differently

it isnt just a matter of switching off one and switching on the other

I would imagine that Webmethods, like SeeBeyond (for example) has its own proprietry language in the background and its own APIs for connecting etc

A decent architect will be able to re draw your current architecture as WBI and ppoint out the areas for concern, ease of change and difficulty of change etc

There is no set path that I knwo of having played around with most "integration" applications

Like Michael i am interested in thsi please let us knwo what is happening
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nahsay
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MichaelDag wrote:
Is this a theoretical question or did you run into a customer who has Webmethods and now has/is deciding to go for WBIMB?

I don't think you will find any migration tools as this requires a lot of knowledge about Webmethods and WBIMB.

I am interested in knowing the reasons for this change in direction!
Can you elaborate as to why your customer/company want to do this?


This is a real question. The customer is not currently happy with the performance, throughput and some of the other things webMethods offers. He seems to be sold on going the WBIMBv5 route and I am trying to determine how to make the transition as painless and easy as possible.
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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yashan wrote:
This is a real question. The customer is not currently happy with the performance, throughput and some of the other things webMethods offers.

Interesting. Can you provide more specifics on the problem area's, also let us know why the customer got sold on WBIMB and why they think WBIMB can handle all of this a lot better then Webmethods.

You don't want to go through a painfull migration and end up in the same alley next to Webmethods...
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nathanw
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Personally I woudl suggest taking an small area of the current set up and building the equivalent in WBI.

Then demonstrate it

This would help us help yu as well as prove that WBI is better (hopefully )
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kirani
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And please dont try to implement your "business Logic" in WBIMB. IT's not an application server, it's a transaformation and routing engine. I've seen people doing all sort of stuff with WMQI and then later they complain about the performance.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kirani wrote:
And please dont try to implement your "business Logic" in WBIMB. IT's not an application server, it's a transaformation and routing engine. I've seen people doing all sort of stuff with WMQI and then later they complain about the performance.


most definitley!
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