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peterw686
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:18 am    Post subject: (resolved) SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE Question Reply with quote

Acolyte

Joined: 26 Sep 2002
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Hi,

Basic on my understanding, if the cluster connection has a problem, the messages will be stayed in the SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE and be sent out once the connection is fine.

Yesterday, we got a cluster connection problem between two QMs and we had serveral messages stayed in the SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE. Tthis morning, the connection is ok and some new messages been sent out, however, yesterday's message still stayed in the transmit queue.

Why?
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siliconfish
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Check the destination queue manager and find out if the CLUSSDR channel to that qmgr is Running, if not start that channel. Even though they are auto defined, you can just issue the start chl and check if the messages were processed.
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JasonE
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Check where they are destined for - amqrfdm -m QM, then option t - This should list the channel it is waiting on, then Q (note capitcal Q) to exit.
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peterw686
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

Joined: 26 Sep 2002
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Thank you both.

The tool is very useful.
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Shalini
PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi All,

Can't we use this utility to do a health check of the destination QMGR and then put the message into the remote cluster queue in case where,

My Client putting message to any of the "n" Partial Repo QMGR remote cluster queue and before putting the message using this utility, Can I divert him to another Partial Repo QMGR so that it reaches the Full Repo QMGR only if any of the Partial QMGR channel or network is fine.

Please comment / Suggest.

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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's a poor design practice to check if a route is available before you try and use it, particularly with MQSeries.

For one, there's no way to guarantee atomicity - that is, no way to guarantee that the route won't go down between when you checked and when you tried ot use it.

For another, particularly in clusters, if the route to some QM in the network is down when BIND_NOT_FIXED message is put, then the message should not go to that QM at all.

And some of NigelG's recent posts have talked about how messages can get redirected once they've been put on the S.C.T.Q.
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Shalini
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi All,

Can we get the source code for "amqrfdm"


I just checked the source code in "<install Dir>\Tools\c\Samples, but could not get the code.

Please let me know, if any one have got.

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Nigelg
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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amqrfdm is IBM source code only.
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Shalini
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi Nigelg,

Do you know the source code location I could only find the exe in the directory

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JasonE
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Nigel meant object code only, ie we only ship out the executables and do not make available the source.

(The source is very highly related to certain internal data structures so there's no way it could be made public)
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