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karthik
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:52 pm    Post subject: RTSINPUTQ Reply with quote

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Hi All,

I have around 6000 messages accumultaed in RTSINPUTQ.
Does this indicate anything.
Also pretty recently i am getting MQ wokflow timeout messages while logging in through webclient.The timeout occurs on a logon itself.

Please help me understand what an RTSINPUTQ is and what its impact is on a workflow system.

Thanks all,
karthik
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vennela
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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I did a display on the queue and got this.

Code:

     4 : dis ql(rt*) all
AMQ8409: Display Queue details.
   DESCR(Local queue for Execution Server input)


So if the messages are accumulating on this queue, most likely your exec server is not running. Do you have any of your fmcemain processes running.
If you are on MQ 5.3 can you display the qstatus and see which os process is keeping the queue open (if any) or see what IPPROCS and OPPROCS are.
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jmac
PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Karthik:

You can get accumulations of messages on RTSINPUTQ like Venny says, if your ES is not running. However, you can also see buildup on the queue if you have your Scheduling server running and it has a lot of items to Expire/Notify. In one situation I run my scheduling server once a day, and when I do the RTSINPUTQ spikes to 7K+.

I attempt to keep my RTSINPUTQ depth fairly low, by adding additional execution servers. The timeout you are seeing is a result of the queuedepth on RTSINPUTQ.
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karthik
PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi John and vennela,

My execution servers are running but as john said my scheduling server might be a problem. I cleared out the RTSINPUTQ , and i recycled the workflow server.

This time the i shut down the scheduling server. I also was watching the queues as other servers were running.
The RTSINPUTQ was filling up quickly and also a transmission queue was also filling up quickly. This transmission queue is for the UPES calls in the processes. This connects to a different queue manager where all the required UPES queues reside.

So, if i set up my transmission queues correctly , will i be able to logon properly?

Once again thanks for all the help,

Karthik
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jmac
PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Karthik:

It is my opinion that a successful login requires you to navigate 2 queues: ADMINPUTQ (Admin Server) and RTSINPUTQ (Execution Server). If the queue depth of either of these gets too high (depends on many variables) you will timeout. You would need to determine what "too high" is for your environment by observation.

As to scheduling server affect please see the new (and very informative) TechNote: "How to configure the Scheduling Server". To find this go to the workflow support site, and key that string into the Search.
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karthik
PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi John,

You must have seen how i was in a hurry to find a solution.
After all the scheduling server was the problem.
I tried one more logon and miraculously , it worked.
Now i know the importance of RTSINPUTQ. I have also added the "How to configure scheduling server" to my favorites.

This is an amazing forum.(Is this the first time someone said this )

Thanks all,
karthik
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jmac
PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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Karthik, et al:

I have been thinking lately about adding an index of TechNotes to the forum. I think it would be a good thing, since I have been unable to find any index to these. If you don't know what string to search on you will not find the TechNote.

What do you all think? It would be a bit of work up front to get the index going, but once we have it, the upkeep should be minimal?

Let me know please.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That would be an excellent idea.
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