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vennela
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: multiple clusqmgrs with same name Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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Location: Hyderabad, India

I do

Code:

dis clusqmgr(QMA) cluster(CLHOPE)
and I get 2 MQA's both of them with the same QMID. The only difference between the two is CLUSTIME and CLUSDATE.

The QMGR where I issue the command is not the repository. Is this a problem?

Code:

AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
   CLUSQMGR(QMA)                          CLUSTER(CLHOPE)
   CHANNEL(TO.QMA)
   CONNAME(QMA(49446))
   QMID(QMA.B49FB1E8E3E90BC5)
   DESCR(CLUSTER RECEIVER CHANNEL FOR QMA)
   CLUSTIME(10.43.46)                      CLUSDATE(2004-05-17)
   ALTTIME( )                              ALTDATE( )
   TRPTYPE(TCP)                            DEFTYPE(CLUSSDRB)
   QMTYPE(REPOS)                           MCANAME( )
   MODENAME( )                             TPNAME( )
   BATCHSZ(100)                            DISCINT(0)
   SHORTRTY(10)                            SHORTTMR(60)
   LONGRTY(999999999)                      LONGTMR(1200)
   SCYEXIT( )                              SCYDATA( )
   SEQWRAP(999999999)                      MAXMSGL(4194304)
   CONVERT(NO)                             USERID()
   PASSWORD()                              MCAUSER( )
   MCATYPE(THREAD)                         HBINT(300)
   BATCHINT(0)                             NPMSPEED(FAST)
   NETPRTY(0)                              SUSPEND(NO)
   STATUS(RUNNING)
   SENDEXIT( )
   SENDDATA( )
   MSGEXIT( )
   MSGDATA( )
   RCVEXIT( )
   RCVDATA( )
AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
   CLUSQMGR(QMA)                          CLUSTER(CLHOPE)
   CHANNEL(TO.QMA)
   CONNAME(QMA(49446))
   QMID(QMA.B49FB1E8E3E90BC5)
   DESCR(CLUSTER RECEIVER CHANNEL FOR QMA)
   CLUSTIME(13.12.37)                      CLUSDATE(2004-07-07)
   ALTTIME( )                              ALTDATE( )
   TRPTYPE(TCP)                            DEFTYPE(CLUSSDRB)
   QMTYPE(REPOS)                           MCANAME( )
   MODENAME( )                             TPNAME( )
   BATCHSZ(100)                            DISCINT(0)
   SHORTRTY(10)                            SHORTTMR(60)
   LONGRTY(999999999)                      LONGTMR(1200)
   SCYEXIT( )                              SCYDATA( )
   SEQWRAP(999999999)                      MAXMSGL(4194304)
   CONVERT(NO)                             USERID()
   PASSWORD()                              MCAUSER( )
   MCATYPE(THREAD)                         HBINT(300)
   BATCHINT(0)                             NPMSPEED(FAST)
   NETPRTY(0)                              SUSPEND(NO)
   STATUS(RUNNING)
   SENDEXIT( )
   SENDDATA( )
   MSGEXIT( )
   MSGDATA( )
   RCVEXIT( )
   RCVDATA( )
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offshore
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have you tried a refresh cluster(CLHOPE) repos(YES) where you issued the command and then see?

I have seen instances where this would happen when a cluster repository queue manager was removed/deleted (perhaps not correctly) and then recreated on the same box w/ the same name ect...

But in you're case that doesn't seem to be what happened because the QMID [QMID(QMA.B49FB1E8E3E90BC5)] is the same on both systems.

Wonder what would happened if the box had been restored from full backup if that would have changed anything?

I'm just kinda grasping @ straws!!
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vennela
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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Posts: 4055
Location: Hyderabad, India

Unfortunately this is 5.2

I did refresh cluster and this is what it says in the error logs

Quote:

10/14/04 18:31:16
AMQ9420: No repositories for cluster CLHOPE.

EXPLANATION:
The queue manager has received information about a cluster for which no
repositories are known.
ACTION:
Alter the REPOS or REPOSNL attribute of the queue manager, that is to have a
full repository for the cluster, to specify the cluster name.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
10/14/04 18:31:17
AMQ9442: Refresh Cluster command processed.

EXPLANATION:
The Refresh Cluster(CLHOPE) command caused 7 objects to be refreshed and 2
objects to be republished.
ACTION:
None.


But the repository namelist has the cluster.
Do you think a refresh cluster on the repos will make a difference.
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ysandler
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I do not think it is going to work either.
Unfortunately, when you are dealing with the clusters, you gotta be very precise. I believe it is even stated somewhere, and teh best choice when you have some problems, it is to delete everything, and start over again.
What it does say in the manual that it is no-no to have two qmgrs with the same name in one cluster, and somehow it has happened.
I understand, it is not the answer you were looking for, but there is no other way to resolve it as to delete everything, and start from scratch.
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csmith28
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well I don't believe vennela would have created two QMGRS with the same name in the same cluster. More likely something happened to corrupt the Full repositories. (edite)He(/edit) is smarter than that.

@vennela
Try suspending QMA from the cluster, then refresh the cluster. Display it again to make sure QMA is not listed as a cluster participant. If it is, try suspending it again.

Then add QMA back to the cluster.
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Holy Cow, delete everything?! Venella hasn't even stated there was a problem, just a curiosity in the display command.

That display is showing two different dates/times for a CLUSRCVR channel (TO.QMA). Is it possible she simply had the same CLUSRCVR channel defined at the same time or at 2 different times?


Anyway, many things have been fixed for clustering since 5.2, so this might just be some garbage info not to be worried about if everything is working as expected.

The REFRSH cluster can not be run on a Full Repository QM. If youfeel you need to do this, alter that FR to be a PR (make sure there is still one other FR), issue the REFRESH command, and then make it a FR again.
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't want to spoil Vennela's fun too much...

But Vennela is not a "she".
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Someone who interviewd for a job at my company was suprised I didn't look like Cosmo Kramer!
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csmith28
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PeterPotkay wrote:
Someone who interviewd for a job at my company was suprised I didn't look like Cosmo Kramer!


Same thing happened to me, they were expecting R2D2.

Code:
 Bleep, Bleep, Whistle....

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vennela
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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jefflowrey wrote:
I don't want to spoil Vennela's fun too much...

But Vennela is not a "she".


Some of the comments on this forum.

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you are the Queen of MQ

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I think what the Lady meant was have a unique SVRCONN channel

This one I think is based on my avatar
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vennela - thank you also, however a little more fiber is needed in your diet. It will keep you a little more regular. It will help provide a little less tension in your work day...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PeterPotkay wrote:
Someone who interviewd for a job at my company was suprised I didn't look like Cosmo Kramer!


See, now I'm disappointed.

I'd hope you at least had the hair....
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