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dilse
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:41 am    Post subject: Invalid XML File Reply with quote

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Guys,

I have an XML file coming from website and that is valid XML file(generated by Microsoft server). We receving this XML file on the broker and it happened to be some of them we recieving are invalid XML files. and at the rceieving end it is IBM server that recieving XML. IS It anything with the compatibiltiy of MIcrosoft and IBM of XML files? and we tried to see if there is any consistency in the invalidity of the messages but no luck. If anyone can throw some flash on this, that will be highly appreciated.

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kirani
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can you be more specific about the server process? What do you mean by IBM server and Microsoft servers?
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dilse
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks kiran,

Even I am not sure exactly how to say it..but I will try. I think website is using MTS(MicroSoft Transaction server) and at the recieving side, IBM Broker that is receiving XML file. So I guess we can say that at the recieving side it is using IBM technology. hope that is clear a bit.let me know what u thinking?.ok

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What error were you getting? (return code pls)
Can you open the file using anything else?
Can you see all the xml headers and tags?

What is the product versions?
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kirani
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Without providing environment and error details one cannot help you. IBM Techonology is a very generic words, so please try to mention specific product names, for example, WMQI 2.1 or WBIMB 5.0 etc.
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dilse
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry Guys,

till now i dint know what exactly as i was recently addressed about this problem. It is a MQSeries Integrator 2.1. They are receiving on this broker and some of them are invalid and they r not being processed by the Broker. that leaves that message without respond. Thats all i know about this problem for right now. i'll let u know more about this if I get something on this. what might be the problem? throw me some flash about the possibility.

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kman
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DilSe,
You got to be more specific with your error description. A lot of members here would like to help as much as possible, but by being generic, nothing much they can do. They may not revisit your item anymore, hence your item is devoid of attention.

It would be helpful if you could;
1. specify the product versions. This include any fixes, CSD, or patches applied. In your case, and MQSI v2.1 is not clear. There are CSDs on this version, and we are interested on what level you are on.

2. Your environment specific. The MQSI v2.1 is on a certain OS platform, and is using MQ or WMQ, and a database. Help specify their versions including fixes and patches.

3. Error condition. What were you doing when you get this problem? All the messages were invalid or on some condition? Identify those that could give problem, however irrelevent that may be.

4. What diagnostic action have you taken?

5. Is this repeatable, i.e., can be created at will?

6. Has it ever succeeded before? If yes, has there been changes? If no, what make you think it should succeed?

I hope these can help you to look at the problem. I also hope some of the grand masters revisit your forum item, once you have described your problem clearer.
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dilse
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry kman,

I am trying to give as many details as I can here

1. specify the product versions. This include any fixes, CSD, or patches applied. In your case, and MQSI v2.1 is not clear. There are CSDs on this version, and we are interested on what level you are on.
it is MQSI 2.1 and with CSD 06

2. Your environment specific. The MQSI v2.1 is on a certain OS platform, and is using MQ or WMQ, and a database. Help specify their versions including fixes and patches.
We are working on Windows 2000Server. We are using WMQ 5.3 with CSD 07 level

3.Error condition. What were you doing when you get this problem? All the messages were invalid or on some condition? Identify those that could give problem, however irrelevent that may be.

We are doing nothing. They r goin to Error Q. Tried to identify but no luck. Possibly the invalid ones are the characters that are values lesser than 13 in Hex.

4. What diagnostic action have you taken?

We are just sending the responses back to the client when they are again asking for the responses for missing rquests.

5. Is this repeatable, i.e., can be created at will?
No. I dont think so.

6. Has it ever succeeded before? If yes, has there been changes? If no, what make you think it should succeed?

Only Some of them are invalid. and they are also very less.(e.g, 1 in 500) but still is an issue.


Hope this would help much in analyzing the situation.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dilse,

Have you look at the latest CSD for MQSI v2.1? For sure the recommendation is to apply the latest fixes, if there is available. You can look at the News and Updates forum on this site for such information.

MQSI v2.1 also has some tracing facilities to help diagnose the problem. You could run the trace, including using the trace node to see what went wrong. Why would characters with less than 13 Hex causes invalid XML file? If you are sure with this, then this is repeatable. What is this 13 Hex values?

A failure is still a problem whether it is 1 in 500 or not. Have you check this particular error comes from which client, and which transaction? If you can pinpoint this, that would help you. You must not discount the programming language and how the message was constructed.

If you can figure out the offending client, you can stop the flow, and use the sample amqget or amqsbcg program to see the message. Was the message itself is a problem, or the message flow. You could also stop the outgoing route from the client side, and look at the message at its source.

Invalid XML could be anything. Missing tag, missing header. Tag undefined. Message set undefined. Corrupt headers. and such. What can be seen of the message on the ErrorQ ?


ps. this is ho wyou run the amqsbcg program;
amqsbcg <queue name> <queue manager name>

Hope that helps. (Kirani normally would have moved this thread into MQSI forum)
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dilse
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks kman,

I will try with what you said and I'll let you know.ok

Thanks alot,
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok the thread is moved now!

Dilse,

It would also help if you could try to capture ExceptionList for this specific error.
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