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kingsley
PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:46 am    Post subject: qmgr\qmgrname\error\*.log having 100MB and 200MB Reply with quote

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Had any one observed the QueueManager error logs getting fatter to the size of 100MB and 200MB.

we had a unique situation where the qmgr\qmgrname\error\*.log becoming 100MB and 200MB and created a big trouble.

we have'nt even sent MQMAXERRORLOGSIZE variable.

We have tried to fingure out the rootcause. But we are unable to find one.

Did anyone encountered such situtations.
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gunter
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think, your problem is not the size of the files, it's the content. What is wrong with your system, so that the queuemanager has to write 100 MB and more ? I would only expect a few start-, stop entries from queuemanager, listener ...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which o/s, version, release, fixpack/csd level? Any FDC's generated?
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kingsley
PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Unix. The error logs should'nt cross 256 KB. It should go to next log if it reaches 256KB.

It amassed itself to 200MB which is strange. we manually deleted them and recreated the qmgr. Now the logs are 256KB eventhough the same problem with application is continuing.

The problem is some application was launched in a different mode and it created a mess every second it polled MQseries. Later we corrected the launch mode and everything is stable. Now error logs are only 256KB after rebuilding the qmgr.

But my confusion how can error logs grew upto 200MB which is unacceptable.
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you confusing the error logs with the transaction logs?
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kingsley
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No. They are error logs of qmgr.

How ever there are no transactional logs. There are data logs which can be either linear or circular.

Ton's of my buddies also confused till they looked at the problem.

Kingsley.
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As far as I am aware, there are no MQSeries imposed bounds to the error logs. They get as big as they get, and can be deleted at any time without any repercussions.

And the "data logs" are actually used to store messages while they are in transactions... so they are transactional logs. And these logs do have MQSeries imposed bounds.

What operating system are you running, what is the content of the error logs that seem too big?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As far as I am aware, there are no MQSeries imposed bounds to the error logs. They get as big as they get, and can be deleted at any time without any repercussions.


Well, they are wrapped automatically by the product and the wrap point is controllable by the env var mentioned in raisers first update. For the error log to get to 100Mb, my only guess is that security is preventing the rollover, and so I would delete amqerr02 and amqerr03, and ensure the mqm group has full control over the directory those files are in, and see if the next qmgr error message causes roll over.
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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JasonE wrote:
Well, they are wrapped automatically by the product and the wrap point is controllable by the env var mentioned in raisers first update. For the error log to get to 100Mb, my only guess is that security is preventing the rollover, and so I would delete amqerr02 and amqerr03, and ensure the mqm group has full control over the directory those files are in, and see if the next qmgr error message causes roll over.

Do I need to update my Info Center, or is MQMAXERRORLOGSIZE not documented in a real manual anywhere?

There are four hits here that mention it, and 11 mentions of it on www.ibm.com - all of which are PMR related entries.
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kingsley
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We did'nt set any environment variable MQMQXERRORLOGSIZE.

We used the same process to build several queuemanagers. This one is stable for long time.

It happened twice that the error logs crossed the default 256KB and reached 100MB which occupied the space and we were alerted by Disk space management team.

When it happened second time, i took seriously and rebuild the queuemanager.

I cannot reveal the OS and other details as guided by the policies of the employer.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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or is MQMAXERRORLOGSIZE not documented in a real manual anywhere


That is correct.

I wonder how many of all these undocumented things will be documeneted in the 6.0 manuals.....
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I don't think 6.0 will have manuals...

Just Eclipse plugins.
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I believe they will give you PDF's so that you can read them offline. Like WBIBM the PDF's will have 1000's of pages covering 100's of chapters.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kingsley - If you really are hursley, you could of course contact me via sametime! I would still be the problem revolves around either directory or file security.

As to documenting all the env vars, we wouldnt want to spoil all your fun finding out about all these exciting hidden features
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