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| KIRANP |
 Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:50 am Post subject: WBIMB |
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Acolyte
Joined: 23 Jul 2002
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hI,
What is WBIMB?? Is it a combination of MQ,MQSI and MQWF??
Thanks
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| Michael Dag |
| Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Jedi Knight
Joined: 13 Jun 2002
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check the WMQI support forum.
WBIMB is the renamed product WMQI, which was a rename of MQSI, which was a rename of MQ Integrator, which was OEMed by IBM from NEON which was bought in the end by Sybase (sorry could not resist...)
WBIMB is usually used when talking about WebSphere Business Integration Message Broker.
The most recent version is V5.0 (to align with WebSphere application server V5.x numbering and WebSphere MQ V5.x numbering)
V3 and V4 never existed and where skipped for reasons above.
Most production installations are on MQSI V2.1
pfeh...... 
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| kman |
| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Partisan
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| there is a sibling to that.. which is WBI EB - stands for Event Broker. A specialised broker for pub/sub event. |
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| pgorak |
| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Disciple
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As far as I know, WBI Event Broker differs from WBI Message Broker only in that it can't transform the messages being sent.
Just my 2 cents 
Piotr
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:33 am Post subject: |
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Actually, Event Broker is the pub/sub engine. Message Broker is the transformation engine.
The product Websphere Business Integration Message Broker includes both Event Broker and Message Broker.
You can buy Event Broker separately, but to the best of my knowledge you can't buy Message Broker separately.
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| kman |
| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Partisan
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I take it you mean Message Broker can also do Pub/Sub, whereas Event Broker can't do transformation. 
As far as I understand it, Message Broker and Event Broker are two separate products, can be purchased on its own. - I did not do the buying or selling, so I don't know this. |
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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No, I mean that, to the best of my knowledge, you cannot purchase a copy of the Message Broker component without getting some version of the product WebSphere Business Integration Broker - which always includes some version of the Event Broker component.
But you can buy a version of the product WebSphere Business Integration Event Broker[/i] that does not include a version of the Message Broker component.
But, again, that's just to the best of my knowledge - I could be wrong!
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| bower5932 |
| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Jedi Knight
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Jeff, you are correct.
One of the differences with the WBI brokers is that the Event Broker is a subset of the Message broker.
With the WMQI brokers, the event broker was shipped much later and had some high-speed pub/sub capabilities that didn't exist in the integrator broker product. |
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| kirani |
| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Jedi Knight
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With the previous version (2.1) on WMQI Broker one was able to get these two products independent of each other. But version 5.0 Message Broker (with or without NEON) comes with Event Broker.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| kirani wrote: |
| With the previous version (2.1) on WMQI Broker one was able to get these two products independent of each other. But version 5.0 Message Broker (with or without NEON) comes with Event Broker. |
Well, yes. But that's because the 2.1 product came bundled with a less-optimized version of the pub/sub engine that is the Event Broker component.
IBM optimized the pub/sub broker in WMQI and turned it into the Event Broker product. And then just used that for the pub/sub broker for v5, instead of keeping a separate codebase.
Regardless, you aren't able to buy a version of WMQI 2.1 without pub/sub capabilities - likewise you can't buy a version of WBIMB without pub/sub capabilities.
But you can buy a pub/sub broker without buying a modeling and transformation engine.
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