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| jeevan |
 Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| Note: The messages are going to the DLQ of qmgr1 SC1. |
Look at the DeadLetterHeader of one of the messages in the DLQ.
What is the reasoncode?
What is the destination qmgr name?
What is the destination queue name? |
What is the reasoncode?
Unkmnown remote queue manager
SC_CLUSTER ( as peter suggested, I put the cluster name in the remote queue manager name in remote queue at TEST QMGR)
Destination queue name is correct> SC.REQ |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Mr Potkay continued on to say: The destination QM should be the name of the cluster, and on the gateway QM you need a QM Alias that blanks out the destination QM so that the cluster is free to look for instances of the queue.
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| jeevan |
| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| Mr Potkay continued on to say: The destination QM should be the name of the cluster, and on the gateway QM you need a QM Alias that blanks out the destination QM so that the cluster is free to look for instances of the queue. |
if you see my mq definition in above post, you can see
* Remote Queues
DEFINE QREMOTE('SC.REMOTE') +
DESCR(' ') RNAME('SC.REQ') +
RQMNAME('SC_CLUSTER') XMITQ('SC1') DEFPRTY(0) +
PUT(ENABLED) DEFPSIST(NO) CLUSTER(' ') +
CLUSNL(' ') DEFBIND(OPEN) REPLACE
SC_CLUSTER is the cluster name
*Alias QMgrs
DEFINE QREMOTE('SC1') +
DESCR(' ') RNAME(' ') +
RQMNAME(' ') XMITQ(' ') DEFPRTY(0) +
PUT(ENABLED) DEFPSIST(NO) CLUSTER(' ') +
CLUSNL(' ') DEFBIND(OPEN) REPLACE
the RQMNAME parameter of the qmgr alias is blank out.
What else? |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:57 am Post subject: |
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You need to tell amqsput to specify a different remote qmgr than the one you have told it to use for connection.
Or not use amqsput to test this. |
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| jeevan |
| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
You need to tell amqsput to specify a different remote qmgr than the one you have told it to use for connection.
Or not use amqsput to test this. |
what queue manager can I tell the amqsput to connect to and the put the message?
Lets say, i write a small java app, what queue manager do I need to tell as destiniation queue manager?
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| exerk |
| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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You got MQRC_UNKNOWN_REMOTE_QUEUE_MANAGER because of:
DEFINE QREMOTE('SC.REMOTE') +
DESCR(' ') RNAME('SC.REQ') +
RQMNAME('SC_CLUSTER') XMITQ('SC1') DEFPRTY(0) +
PUT(ENABLED) DEFPSIST(NO) CLUSTER(' ') +
CLUSNL(' ') DEFBIND(OPEN) REPLACE
Replace the SC1 QR with one named SC_CLUSTER, use amqsput and connect to TEST1 and put to the SC.REMOTE queue.
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| jeevan |
| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| exerk wrote: |
You got MQRC_UNKNOWN_REMOTE_QUEUE_MANAGER because of:
DEFINE QREMOTE('SC.REMOTE') +
DESCR(' ') RNAME('SC.REQ') +
RQMNAME('SC_CLUSTER') XMITQ('SC1') DEFPRTY(0) +
PUT(ENABLED) DEFPSIST(NO) CLUSTER(' ') +
CLUSNL(' ') DEFBIND(OPEN) REPLACE
Replace the SC1 QR with one named SC_CLUSTER, use amqsput and connect to TEST1 and put to the SC.REMOTE queue. |
if I replace SC_CLUSTER with SC1, all the message go to SC1 not SC2. If I put SC_CLUSTER in remote queue manager field as I have now, then the message go to deadletter queue of qmgr SC1. |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Please read what I posted...but to make it more explicit:
In queue manager SC1, define a QR named SC_CLUSTER
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| jeevan |
| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| exerk wrote: |
Please read what I posted...but to make it more explicit:
In queue manager SC1, define a QR named SC_CLUSTER |
It did the trick. it worked. I was not sure when peter said to create a qmgr alias.
Thanks exerk, Peter, bruce2359 and all who contributed in the discussion and helped to make it happened.
wish you all happy long holiday |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| It did the trick. it worked. I was not sure when peter said to create a qmgr alias. |
Queue manager alias definitions remain a mystery for many. Please post your definition for the enjoyment of all.
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| jeevan |
| Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
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| It did the trick. it worked. I was not sure when peter said to create a qmgr alias. |
Queue manager alias definitions remain a mystery for many. Please post your definition for the enjoyment of all. |
I agree with you. I have setup a hub and spoke network using qmgr alias such that it works like a cluster but still I get confused witih it. Anyway, I am posting all the script for my mq obj definition for your enjoyment( borrowing your words).
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Here is the complete def of mq objects which is working
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*This queue manager is out of cluster. The message originates from this queue manager.
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*I used amqsput utility to send message to cluster queue manager.
* >> TEST1
* Sender Channels
DEFINE CHANNEL('TEST1.TO.SC1') CHLTYPE(SDR) +
TRPTYPE(TCP) XMITQ('SC1') +
CONNAME('10.16.178.133(1416)') DESCR(' ') MCANAME(' ') +
BATCHSZ(50) BATCHINT(0) HBINT(300) +
DISCINT(6000) SHORTRTY(10) SHORTTMR(60) +
LONGRTY(999999999) LONGTMR(1200) SCYEXIT(' ') +
SCYDATA(' ') MSGEXIT(' ') MSGDATA(' ') +
SENDEXIT(' ') SENDDATA(' ') RCVEXIT(' ') +
RCVDATA(' ') SEQWRAP(999999999) MAXMSGL(4194304) +
CONVERT(NO) NPMSPEED(FAST) MCATYPE(PROCESS) +
MCAUSER(' ') USERID(' ') +
BATCHHB(0) KAINT(AUTO) LOCLADDR(' ') +
SSLCIPH(' ') SSLPEER(' ') REPLACE
* Alias Queues
DEFINE QALIAS('SC.REQ') +
DESCR(' ') TARGQ('SC.REMOTE') +
DEFPRTY(0) PUT(ENABLED) GET(ENABLED) +
DEFPSIST(NO) CLUSTER(' ') CLUSNL(' ') +
DEFBIND(OPEN) REPLACE
* Remote Queues
DEFINE QREMOTE('SC.REMOTE') +
DESCR(' ') RNAME('SC.REQ') +
RQMNAME('SC_CLUSTER') XMITQ('SC1') DEFPRTY(0) +
PUT(ENABLED) DEFPSIST(NO) CLUSTER(' ') +
CLUSNL(' ') DEFBIND(NOTFIXED) REPLACE
* xmitq Queues
DEFINE QLOCAL('SC1') +
DESCR(' ') SHARE +
TRIGMPRI(0) TRIGDPTH(1) TRIGTYPE(FIRST) +
TRIGDATA('TEST1.TO.SC1') BOQNAME(' ') PROCESS(' ') +
DEFPRTY(0) MAXMSGL(4194304) BOTHRESH(0) +
TRIGGER DEFSOPT(SHARED) HARDENBO +
MSGDLVSQ(PRIORITY) PUT(ENABLED) GET(ENABLED) +
DEFPSIST(NO) USAGE(XMITQ) RETINTVL(999999999) +
MAXDEPTH(5000) QDEPTHLO(20) QDEPTHHI(80) +
QSVCINT(999999999) QSVCIEV(NONE) +
QDPMAXEV(ENABLED) INITQ('SYSTEM.CHANNEL.INITQ') QDPHIEV(DISABLED) +
QDPLOEV(DISABLED) CLUSTER(' ') CLUSNL(' ') +
DEFBIND(OPEN) REPLACE
* **************************************************************************
* The queue managers SC1 and SC2 are cluster queue managers. SC.REQ is the cluster queue in which the message is put.
***********************************************************************
* Queue Manager SC1
ALTER QMGR DESCR(' ') TRIGINT(999999999) +
DEADQ('SYSTEM.DEAD.LETTER.QUEUE') DEFXMITQ(' ') +
MAXHANDS(256) AUTHOREV(DISABLED) INHIBTEV(DISABLED) +
LOCALEV(DISABLED) REMOTEEV(DISABLED) STRSTPEV(ENABLED) +
PERFMEV(DISABLED) CCSID(437) MAXMSGL(4194304) +
CHADEV(DISABLED) CHAD(DISABLED) CHADEXIT(' ') +
MAXUMSGS(10000) REPOS('SC_CLUSTER') REPOSNL(' ') +
CLWLEXIT(' ') CLWLDATA(' ') CLWLLEN(100) +
CONFIGEV(DISABLED) SSLTASKS(0) SSLCRYP( ) +
SSLCRLNL(' ') SSLKEYR('D:\mqm\qmgrs\SC1\ssl\key') FORCE
* Receiver Channels
DEFINE CHANNEL('TEST1.TO.SC1') CHLTYPE(RCVR) +
TRPTYPE(TCP) DESCR(' ') +
BATCHSZ(50) HBINT(300) +
MRTMR(1000) MRRTY(10) SCYEXIT(' ') +
SCYDATA(' ') MSGEXIT(' ') MSGDATA(' ') +
SENDEXIT(' ') SENDDATA(' ') RCVEXIT(' ') +
RCVDATA(' ') PUTAUT(DEF) SEQWRAP(999999999) +
MAXMSGL(4194304) NPMSPEED(FAST) MCAUSER(' ') +
MREXIT(' ') MRDATA(' ') +
KAINT(AUTO) SSLCIPH(' ') SSLPEER(' ') +
SSLCAUTH(REQUIRED) REPLACE
* Cluster Receiver Channels
DEFINE CHANNEL('TO.SC1') CHLTYPE(CLUSRCVR) +
TRPTYPE(TCP) CONNAME('10.16.178.133(1416)') +
DESCR(' ') +
BATCHSZ(50) +
BATCHINT(0) HBINT(300) MRTMR(1000) +
MRRTY(10) DISCINT(6000) SHORTRTY(10) +
SHORTTMR(60) LONGRTY(999999999) LONGTMR(1200) +
SCYEXIT(' ') SCYDATA(' ') MSGEXIT(' ') +
MSGDATA(' ') SENDEXIT(' ') SENDDATA(' ') +
RCVEXIT(' ') RCVDATA(' ') PUTAUT(DEF) +
SEQWRAP(999999999) MAXMSGL(4194304) CONVERT(NO) +
NPMSPEED(FAST) MCATYPE(THREAD) MCAUSER(' ') +
MREXIT(' ') MRDATA(' ') CLUSTER('SC_CLUSTER') +
CLUSNL(' ') NETPRTY(0) BATCHHB(0) +
KAINT(AUTO) LOCLADDR(' ') SSLCIPH(' ') +
SSLPEER(' ') SSLCAUTH(REQUIRED) REPLACE
* Local Queues
DEFINE QLOCAL('SC.REQ') +
DESCR(' ') SHARE +
TRIGMPRI(0) TRIGDPTH(1) TRIGTYPE(FIRST) +
TRIGDATA(' ') BOQNAME(' ') PROCESS(' ') +
DEFPRTY(0) MAXMSGL(4194304) BOTHRESH(0) +
NOTRIGGER DEFSOPT(SHARED) HARDENBO +
MSGDLVSQ(PRIORITY) PUT(ENABLED) GET(ENABLED) +
DEFPSIST(NO) USAGE(NORMAL) RETINTVL(999999999) +
MAXDEPTH(5000) QDEPTHLO(20) QDEPTHHI(80) +
QSVCINT(999999999) QSVCIEV(NONE) +
QDPMAXEV(ENABLED) INITQ(' ') QDPHIEV(DISABLED) +
QDPLOEV(DISABLED) CLUSTER('SC_CLUSTER') CLUSNL(' ') +
DEFBIND(NOTFIXED) REPLACE
* Alias QMgrs
DEFINE QREMOTE('SC_CLUSTER') +
DESCR(' ') RNAME(' ') +
RQMNAME(' ') XMITQ(' ') DEFPRTY(0) +
PUT(ENABLED) DEFPSIST(NO) CLUSTER(' ') +
CLUSNL(' ') DEFBIND(OPEN) REPLACE
***********************************************************************
* >> Queue Manager SC2
* Cluster Receiver Channels
DEFINE CHANNEL('TO.SC2') CHLTYPE(CLUSRCVR) +
TRPTYPE(TCP) CONNAME('10.16.178.133(1417)') +
DESCR(' ') +
BATCHSZ(50) +
BATCHINT(0) HBINT(300) MRTMR(1000) +
MRRTY(10) DISCINT(6000) SHORTRTY(10) +
SHORTTMR(60) LONGRTY(999999999) LONGTMR(1200) +
SCYEXIT(' ') SCYDATA(' ') MSGEXIT(' ') +
MSGDATA(' ') SENDEXIT(' ') SENDDATA(' ') +
RCVEXIT(' ') RCVDATA(' ') PUTAUT(DEF) +
SEQWRAP(999999999) MAXMSGL(4194304) CONVERT(NO) +
NPMSPEED(FAST) MCATYPE(THREAD) MCAUSER(' ') +
MREXIT(' ') MRDATA(' ') CLUSTER('SC_CLUSTER') +
CLUSNL(' ') NETPRTY(0) BATCHHB(0) +
KAINT(AUTO) LOCLADDR(' ') SSLCIPH(' ') +
SSLPEER(' ') SSLCAUTH(REQUIRED) REPLACE
* Cluster Sender Channels
DEFINE CHANNEL('TO.SC1') CHLTYPE(CLUSSDR) +
TRPTYPE(TCP) CONNAME('10.16.178.133(1416)') +
DESCR(' ') MCANAME(' ') +
BATCHSZ(50) +
BATCHINT(0) HBINT(300) DISCINT(6000) +
SHORTRTY(10) SHORTTMR(60) LONGRTY(999999999) +
LONGTMR(1200) SCYEXIT(' ') SCYDATA(' ') +
MSGEXIT(' ') MSGDATA(' ') SENDEXIT(' ') +
SENDDATA(' ') RCVEXIT(' ') RCVDATA(' ') +
SEQWRAP(999999999) MAXMSGL(4194304) CONVERT(NO) +
NPMSPEED(FAST) MCATYPE(THREAD) MCAUSER(' ') +
USERID(' ') CLUSTER('SC_CLUSTER') +
CLUSNL(' ') BATCHHB(0) KAINT(AUTO) +
LOCLADDR(' ') SSLCIPH(' ') SSLPEER(' ') +
REPLACE
* Local Queues
DEFINE QLOCAL('SC.REQ') +
DESCR(' ') SHARE +
TRIGMPRI(0) TRIGDPTH(1) TRIGTYPE(FIRST) +
TRIGDATA(' ') BOQNAME(' ') PROCESS(' ') +
DEFPRTY(0) MAXMSGL(4194304) BOTHRESH(0) +
NOTRIGGER DEFSOPT(SHARED) HARDENBO +
MSGDLVSQ(PRIORITY) PUT(ENABLED) GET(ENABLED) +
DEFPSIST(NO) USAGE(NORMAL) RETINTVL(999999999) +
MAXDEPTH(5000) QDEPTHLO(20) QDEPTHHI(80) +
QSVCINT(999999999) QSVCIEV(NONE) +
QDPMAXEV(ENABLED) INITQ(' ') QDPHIEV(DISABLED) +
QDPLOEV(DISABLED) CLUSTER('SC_CLUSTER') CLUSNL(' ') +
DEFBIND(NOTFIXED) REPLACE |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| Queue manager alias definitions remain a mystery for many... |
And more so it seems where clusters are concerned. When explaining the use of gateway queue managers as entry points into a cluster, I normally refer to the type of alias defined by jeevan as a cluster queue manager alias as it seems easier for people to visualise how it works.
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| bruce2359 |
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name resolution
the queue manager searches
to discover where
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| George Carey |
| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: very apropo |
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I was just going to ask about a cluster queue resolution problem (remote site having messages go into DLQ instead of onto Cluster Qs)that was exactly what this discussion was about.
I recalled what I think was Peter Ps description was how it should be done as well! I will forward this on to remote site admins for review.
Bruce mentioned Name resolution ... If IBM would post that algoritm for review (maybe it is some where in doco) that is the key.
I remember the original (pre-cursor product to MQSeries) vendor had documentation with a 1/2 page on the Name resolution algorithm ... maybe even a single paragraph(short enough that I had it memorized for a time) ... that seemed to hold true on all subsequent versions into modern times.
It would be very useful to have that original doco(if not extant) and IBM's formal algorithm put side by side for all MQers to read and study.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:08 am Post subject: Re: very apropo |
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| George Carey wrote: |
If IBM would post that algoritm for review (maybe it is some where in doco) that is the key.
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It's here though it does still take some figuring in complex situations.
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