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kaundinya
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:09 pm    Post subject: [Solved] Dynamic creation of Workitems in Roles Reply with quote

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Hi all

While using roles to distribute workitems to a group of staff, it seems that when a new staff enters a role, no workitems are created eventhough other staff in the same group already have some. Is there anyway to change this behaviour and allocate existing workitems to the new staff?

Can this be done without changing programs or model? Thanks

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Any new activitres will be assigned to the new user.... However, once workitems are initially created for the role, new workitems for those activities will NOT be created for users added to the role.
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kaundinya
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the reply. Isn't it different from a plain Role concept?

Is there any workaround to change this behaviour. Tks.

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sac
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can try transferring the Work item to the new user imported.
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kaundinya
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the reply.

But it's a transfer right? Let's assume I have group called 'X' under which users u1,u2 and u3 exist with some workitems. When new user u4 joins the group and I want to allocate the same workitems to u4.

When I use transfer, I have to transfer workitems of any of the existing users (u1,u2 or u3). But it deprives the old user of his existing items. Is there any way transfer can be done without depriving any existing users of their workitems?

Thanks

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hos
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

the key concept here is called 'staff resolution'. For performance reasons staff resolution takes place only once for an activity when it gets into state READY. That means the list of eligible persons is computed only once. If you want this list to be recomputed you need a 'new' activity to become READY. Place your activity in a block and finish it without meeting the block exit condition. This will drive a new iteration of activity instantiation and staff resolution will take place. However I guess this is not exactly what you want to do
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kaundinya
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

Thanks for the advise. But, as you said, it's not something that I am looking for. Is there any configuration/parameter that I can set to recreate workitem for newly added user. Tks.

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sac
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,
If you know the concept of Team List, where in a only one work item is created for an activity and is assigned to only one user (say GRPUSER) who is also the owner, and all the other users who can/should work on this work item have authorization to see the work items assigned to this this one user. In this case the actual owner of the Work item is always GRPUSER. Here whenever a new user is added to the Staff deftn, he will have authorization for seeing the WorkItem of GRPUSER user. Whosoever want to work on the listed work item, would be able to transfer the work item of this GRPUSER to his work list and complete the actvity.

Hope i am clear in explaining the idea.
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kaundinya
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's a highly useful pointer. Thanks a lot .

Appreciate if you can point me to some documentation related to Team List.

Regards

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sac
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can go to the following link and download the PDF.

http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=203&uid=swg24006852&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en

You will find the required info related to Team list in that PDF.
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kaundinya
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:34 pm    Post subject: [Solved] Dynamic creation of Workitems in Roles Reply with quote

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Thanks for all the info. I have my system up and running with minor changes.

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