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| mahek |
 Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:25 pm Post subject: How to create a queue manager on Z/OS |
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Hi,
How to create a queue manager on Z/OS.
can any one help me out. |
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| Anirud |
| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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I have never used Z/OS else I would have given you better information. It's good to start with the manuals.
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/integration/mqfamily/library/manualsa/manuals/crosslatest.html
check out WebSphere MQ Intercommunication Guide and WebSphere MQ System Administration Guide.
On UNIX platforms we can create a queue manager using
crtmqm <abc>, where abc is the queue manager name. I think it will be the same on Z/OS but I might be wrong. Checkout the manuals. |
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Creating a QM on z/OS is nowhere near as simple as on Distributed.
You need to look at the z/OS specific manuals in the link provided.
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| joerg |
| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: How to create a queue manager on Z/OS |
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| mahek wrote: |
Hi,
How to create a queue manager on Z/OS.
can any one help me out. |
Hi,
look at the System Setup Guide. There is a step by step guide.
bye joerg |
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| EKhalil |
| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:17 am Post subject: |
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There is no way that anyone will be able to give you instructions on how to create qmgr on z/os....too much info. If I were you I would get in touch with the z/os system admins and have them go over chapter 2 (Customizing your qmgrs) in the system setup guide with you. There are several tasks that you might be able to skip (out of the 21 tasks needed). Also, DECIDE on the use of coupling facility. Make sure you read "WebSphere MQ Queue Sharing Group in a Parallel Sysplex Environment" and "Configuring Queue Sharing Group and WebSphere MQ" Moreover, talk to security cause you gonna need to have permissions to access libraries, run jobs, create procs and get a started tasks going. It will be a tedious process the first time around but it will all come together  |
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| mahek |
| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the help but i am not abel to find the exact commands that are required to create the queue managers on z/os |
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| PGoodhart |
| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| Anirud |
| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| JT |
| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:36 am Post subject: |
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mahek,
In a nutshell, here's what I think you're looking for:
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Copy the sample started task procedure thlqual.SCSQPROC(CSQ4MSTR) to member CSQ1MSTR (or a name of your choice) of your SYS1.PROCLIB.
When you have copied the members, you can tailor them to the requirements of each subsystem, using the instructions in member CSQ4MSTR.
Before you start the queue manager, set up WebSphere MQ data set and system security by:
- Authorizing the queue manager started task procedure to run under your external security manager.
- Authorizing access to the queue manager data sets. |
However, I think what everyone is trying to tell you is, that it's not a simple matter of issuing a "create queue manager" command. There's more to it than that. There are initial tasks involving page sets, boot strap & log datasets, linklist updates, startup procs, APF authorizations, etc...
As Peter mentioned, it's not like the distributed environment where you can issue the "crtmqm" command and most tasks are automatically performed on your behalf.
Take some time to read the System Setup Guide (Chapter 2) as previously suggested, numerous times. |
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| mahek |
| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Hi all,
I have been looking all the z/OS specific manuals about 6 of the manuals but i could't find any information about creating a queue manage there are all other commands ex: creating the queues ,channels etc but nothing is mentioned about creating a queue manager on z/os/
thanks
mahek |
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| kevinf2349 |
| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Remember the IEFSSN has to be setup ahead of time and the system IPL'd. Then you will need to get RACF/ACF2 STCids setup. Libraries have to be authorised and bootstrap datasets defined and initialised. Then there are the pagesets and the CHIN address space. You also have to assemble macros with logging information etc....most of this will be site specific.
The bottomline is that your friendly z/OS System Programmer will have to be in the loop and will probably need you to provide some information for to them in order to get things implemented for you.
If you are the System Programmer....then it is time to RTFM as most of the stuff is pretty much bread and butter system programmer tasks.
If you are new to system programming...go ask an experienced person to help, if there isn't one that has done MQ....seek out the person who installed DB2 (if you have it).
Kevin
As others have said.....Chapter 2 of the z/OS System Setup Guide (SC34-6052-02) tells you all of the steps involved in 'creating' a queue manager.
There is no CRTQMGR command for z/OS |
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| offshore |
| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Yes, you definately need to read through the System Setup Guide CH2.
If this is a "interview" type question on how do you setup up a z/OS QMGR then you're wasting you time. To get a good feel on how to setup a QMGR on z/OS you have to "do-it"
That being said if you manage to get all the JCL jobs setup, STCs, ESM stuff and have "created" a QMGR and you want to bring it up before an IPL you can use the SETSSI command to dynamically define the MQ subsystem. Just remember to still add it to IEFSSN so that it's available after an IPL. |
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| LuisFer |
| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| And RACF (or others), UnixSytemServices. |
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| kingsley |
| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:32 am Post subject: |
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It used to take atleast 10 1-5 working days with my client to create one queuemanager on z/os. It 's a lengthy process and involoves lot of people , process and resources
It's not like unix or windows. |
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| javagate |
| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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It does not take 10 days to setup a queue-manager on z/OS. Once you install the software (SMPE) and be sure to turn security off (i.e. make sure the facility classes stay in the off position), you should have one up and IVP'd in an afternoon. Yes an afternoon. Security on the other hand may take months to develop correctly.
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