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hughson
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:02 pm Post subject: Useful Knowledge Center URL change Reply with quote

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I don't know if anyone else had already noticed, but there now exists a Knowledge Center URL that redirects to the latest version.

Use something like:-

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSFKSJ_latest/com.ibm.mq.ref.adm.doc/q086270_.html

and it will redirect you to the latest version page. HANDY!

See IBM Knowledge Center - LATEST! for a bit more detail if you don't know what I mean.

Cheers,
Morag
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Useful Knowledge Center URL change Reply with quote

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hughson wrote:
I don't know if anyone else had already noticed, but there now exists a Knowledge Center URL that redirects to the latest version.

Use something like:-

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSFKSJ_latest/com.ibm.mq.ref.adm.doc/q086270_.html

and it will redirect you to the latest version page. HANDY!

See IBM Knowledge Center - LATEST! for a bit more detail if you don't know what I mean.

Cheers,
Morag

The first URL took me to a page entitled Using on MQSC commands.
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hughson
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Useful Knowledge Center URL change Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
The first URL took me to a page entitled "Using on MQSC commands".

Actually it took you to a page entitled DISPLAY QUEUE, but where the Knowledge Center puts its page titles is a whole different topic to complain about!

Did you notice the important part about that URL when you used it though? Did you notice that the URL that you clicked on contained "_latest" where the version number would normally be, and once it loaded up in your browser, it had redirected to the page with the URL with the actual 9.2.0 version number in it?

Here they are side by side, perhaps that will help?

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSFKSJ_latest/com.ibm.mq.ref.adm.doc/q086270_.html
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSFKSJ_9.2.0/com.ibm.mq.ref.adm.doc/q086270_.html

As the rest of my original post says, if you don't know what I mean see IBM Knowledge Center - LATEST!

If you still don't get it, let me know and I'll try to explain it further.

Cheers,
Morag
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rekarm01
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Useful Knowledge Center URL change Reply with quote

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hughson wrote:
I don't know if anyone else had already noticed, but there now exists a Knowledge Center URL that redirects to the latest version.

That does seem handy, but it doesn't always work. IBM sometimes reorganizes, renames, or deletes pages between versions. For example, https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSFKSJ_7.5.0/com.ibm.mq.dev.doc/q023820_.html no longer exists in IBM MQ v9.2.0. Replacing "7.5.0" with "latest" just redirects to the IBM MQ v9.2 Product Welcome page. So, it looks like the "latest" links can break over time, even when the original links still work.

hughson wrote:
See IBM Knowledge Center - LATEST! for a bit more detail if you don't know what I mean.

In the "Change version or product" drop-down menu, is the "IBM MQ" entry new? That just seems to redirect to the welcome page too, regardless of whether a "latest" version exists. Is it supposed to do that?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:39 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Trying to keep up with IBM changing links is hopeless. Whether its a manual, a technote or a message board, IBM seems intent on keeping us all guessing on where to get information for their products. Its gotten bad in the last few years. Probably a rotation of IBM people looking to make their mark - hey, lets redesign the look and feel of this, who cares if we change the links for the 3rd time in as many years.
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hughson
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Useful Knowledge Center URL change Reply with quote

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rekarm01 wrote:
hughson wrote:
I don't know if anyone else had already noticed, but there now exists a Knowledge Center URL that redirects to the latest version.

That does seem handy, but it doesn't always work. IBM sometimes reorganizes, renames, or deletes pages between versions. For example, https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSFKSJ_7.5.0/com.ibm.mq.dev.doc/q023820_.html no longer exists in IBM MQ v9.2.0. Replacing "7.5.0" with "latest" just redirects to the IBM MQ v9.2 Product Welcome page. So, it looks like the "latest" links can break over time, even when the original links still work.

I agree that it won't work for links that IBM removes, but I will likely use it most for reference pages, e.g DEFINE QLOCAL or MQOPEN fields, that kind of thing, and I have a higher level of confidence that those are less likely to disappear. I think the guide style material gets rearranged more often than the reference material.

rekarm01 wrote:
hughson wrote:
See IBM Knowledge Center - LATEST! for a bit more detail if you don't know what I mean.

In the "Change version or product" drop-down menu, is the "IBM MQ" entry new? That just seems to redirect to the welcome page too, regardless of whether a "latest" version exists. Is it supposed to do that?

I think the "IBM MQ" entry might be new. I frankly have no clue about its purpose. It does indeed always take you to the root page. If you hover over it instead of clicking on it and look at the address it is going to take you to, it is direct to the root page.

PeterPotkay wrote:
Trying to keep up with IBM changing links is hopeless. Whether its a manual, a technote or a message board, IBM seems intent on keeping us all guessing on where to get information for their products. Its gotten bad in the last few years. Probably a rotation of IBM people looking to make their mark - hey, lets redesign the look and feel of this, who cares if we change the links for the 3rd time in as many years.

This really annoys me too. I have lost so much material that I used to rely on. I simply did not manage to save everything that disappeared because I didn't realise quite how much was going to disappear.

Cheers,
Morag
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rekarm01
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:27 am Post subject: Re: Useful Knowledge Center URL change Reply with quote

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hughson wrote:
I have lost so much material that I used to rely on. I simply did not manage to save everything that disappeared because I didn't realise quite how much was going to disappear.

Web archive sites like the "Wayback Machine" can help to recover at least some of this lost material, (for example, IBM's now-sunsetted Globalization website).
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: Useful Knowledge Center URL change Reply with quote

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hughson wrote:
I have lost so much material that I used to rely on. I simply did not manage to save everything that disappeared because I didn't realise quite how much was going to disappear.
Cheers, Morag

I used to collect links to useful IBM web pages, but I gave up because IBM changed links or completely deleted valuable material. You would think that IBM would keep this material online in an archive, like MS do. These days I print web pages to PDF if its something worth keeping.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Useful Knowledge Center URL change Reply with quote

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gbaddeley wrote:
hughson wrote:
I have lost so much material that I used to rely on. I simply did not manage to save everything that disappeared because I didn't realise quite how much was going to disappear.
Cheers, Morag

I used to collect links to useful IBM web pages, but I gave up because IBM changed links or completely deleted valuable material. You would think that IBM would keep this material online in an archive, like MS do. These days I print web pages to PDF if its something worth keeping.
I put it onto a website i control
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