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| jayZ |
 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:17 am Post subject: Manually def channel to full repository if one was created |
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Acolyte
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| I have a cluster consisting of 3 full repository queue managers (I know the recommendation is 2) and one partial queue manager. Two of the FR queue managers correctly have auto explicit cluster-sender channels defined to the others, but the third has one auto cluster-sender channels. Do I need to create the auto explicit cluster-sender channels on the third in order for that queue manager to receive cluster information? If these queue managers were new, I'd have created them. I'm just not sure what to do after the fact. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Manually def channel to full repository if one was creat |
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Grand High Poobah
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| jayZ wrote: |
| I have a cluster consisting of 3 full repository queue managers (I know the recommendation is 2) |
Repent! Repent your heresy!
For there are 2 and only 2 full repository queue managers; never shall you define 3 and you shall only define 1 on your way to defining the second.
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| and one partial queue manager. |
So even if you'd followed the recommendation you'd have the partial repository surrounded and outnumbered; do you expect it to come out with it's hands up and surrender?
Why this rather odd (and cumbersome) topology for such a very small cluster?
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| Do I need to create the auto explicit cluster-sender channels on the third in order for that queue manager to receive cluster information? |
Yes. You need manually defined cluster channels linking all 3 repositories. Which with more than 2 FRs rapidly negates the value of a cluster.
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| If these queue managers were new, I'd have created them. |
If I found a cluster like this, it would probably have an embarrassing and entirely unavoidable accident that allowed it to be redefined properly.
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| I'm just not sure what to do after the fact. |
None of the FRs know if they're new or old.
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| jayZ |
| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Acolyte
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| Thanks Vitor for the informative and hilarious response. With this, I'll either just demote the third FR or create the channels to make it a proper FR, leaning towards the former. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| jayZ wrote: |
| With this, I'll either just demote the third FR or create the channels to make it a proper FR, leaning towards the former. |
Salvation can still be yours. Be sure to burn some incense to cleanse your aura & pop some crystals around.
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| exerk |
| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| jayZ wrote: |
| With this, I'll either just demote the third FR or create the channels to make it a proper FR, leaning towards the former. |
Salvation can still be yours. Be sure to burn some incense to cleanse your aura & pop some crystals around. |
Just consider yourself lucky that Vitor didn't offer to scrub you down with a yard brush 
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| exerk wrote: |
| Vitor wrote: |
| jayZ wrote: |
| With this, I'll either just demote the third FR or create the channels to make it a proper FR, leaning towards the former. |
Salvation can still be yours. Be sure to burn some incense to cleanse your aura & pop some crystals around. |
Just consider yourself lucky that Vitor didn't offer to scrub you down with a yard brush |
Well if you will go messing around with that stuff......
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| JosephGramig |
| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Since you have this unfortunate configuration, you cannot know if your cluster is fragmented (which it certainly is).
Demote all FRs but one to which the other three have explicit CLUSSDR channels to it. Then REFRESH CLUSTER(bla) REPOS(YES) at the three PRs.
Then pick one Qmgr to be the second FR but first define an explicit CLUSSDR from FR1 to the Qmgr that will be FR2. Now promote the second Qmgr to be FR2.
Only this way can you be sure the two FRs match (and they need to match).
Last point: If the two FRs are only FRs and have no application queues, then they are highly available without you doing anything else and you should never have to touch them again except for upgrades (which FRs should always be the first to be upgraded).
If your employer will not allow you to do this then:
Hop on the bus, Gus. Make a new plan Sam. Drop off the key Lee. Just get yourself free. |
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