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issac
PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:28 am    Post subject: Connecting to 2 QMGRs of the same name. problem? Reply with quote

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Hello, dear supporters

One of my customers is going to deploy 2 mq clusters respectively in Tokyo and Shanghai. for some reason they want to use identical names for the gate way, MQMIPS.

Another qmgr located in Shanghai named MQESBGW1 needs to have SDR-RCVR chls to Tokyo MQMIPS, and another qmgr MQESBGW2, which is in the same cluster as MQESBGW1 needs to connect to Shanghai MQMIPS.

Is there going to be a problem for the topology?

MQESBGW1 ------(SDR)-------> Tokyo MQMIPS
MQESBGW2 ------(SDR)-------> Shanghai MQMIPS
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MQESBGW1 & MQESBGW2 are in the same cluster.

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes.

This will cause huge problems.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
Yes.

This will cause huge problems.


Umm... would you please explain more please?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MQMIPS and MQESBGW1 are not in the same cluster.

In the topology,only MQESBGW1 and MQESBGW2 are in the same cluster. 2 MQMIPS are not connected as a same cluster... but they had the same cluster name MIPSCLUS.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh. The name of the cluster, not the queue manager.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Never had 2 clusters be distinct yet have the same cluster name.
You will run into routing problems unless at least one of the clusters uses consistently a cluster alias that is distinct from the local cluster name and allows routing.

Real problems will start the moment they will want the clusters to overlap and you will have to change everything in at least one of the clusters...

Might be easier if they start with different cluster names than having to change mid course. If the cluster names are the same the only easy option is not overlapping clusters but merging the 2 clusters... and that might bring huge problems as to authorizations and distribution of messages when cluster queues with different processes have the same name across both clusters....

My advice: keep them separate.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
Never had 2 clusters be distinct yet have the same cluster name.
You will run into routing problems unless at least one of the clusters uses consistently a cluster alias that is distinct from the local cluster name and allows routing.

Real problems will start the moment they will want the clusters to overlap and you will have to change everything in at least one of the clusters...

Might be easier if they start with different cluster names than having to change mid course. If the cluster names are the same the only easy option is not overlapping clusters but merging the 2 clusters... and that might bring huge problems as to authorizations and distribution of messages when cluster queues with different processes have the same name across both clusters....

My advice: keep them separate.


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