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orman
PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:13 am    Post subject: Using Subflows - WMB8003 Reply with quote

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Hello

Recently we decided to examine the issue of SUBFLOWs
The idea is clear to us and we think it can help and improve our development
The question is whether the new capacity is recommended?

We work with WMB 8003 version

Some questions:
Is it recommand to use Subflows?
Is there a critical bugs?
Is there a different behavior from working with msgflow as a subflow
Is the process level, subflow is a separate thread or is part of what CMF
If you already use suflow right necessarily work with Libaries
Is there any major fix in 8004/8005 FP?

Soon I will begin a study of this ability, and would love to hear your opinion on the subject

Thanks,
Or
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orman
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hey
no answer till now

there is a new fix 8005 -
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?&uid=swg27035709

is list some problems with the subflows and as it seem this feature is not yet durable and stable

what do you think ?
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Generally, if you are using applications and libraries, you have to use subflows, not .msgflow files.
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orman
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
Generally, if you are using applications and libraries, you have to use subflows, not .msgflow files.


It is not that must, I can use inline mode in Applications and Library

Is it recommend to use it ?
Do you have Production environment that use this feature ?


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smdavies99
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Speaking from my limited experience (?) the flows that I have ported from V7.0.0.4 to IIB 9.0.0.2 work fine.
All the subflow files were converted to .subflow types
All the common subflow projects were converted to .subflows and Libraries
All of the old Message Flow Projects were converted to applications
All of the flows use at least one local sub-flow

So far all of my testing (some 3 million messages over the past 8 weeks) has proved that everything is fine. I run two VM's (one for 7.0.0.4 and the other for 9.0.0.2) each being fed with the same data. The both write logs and audit data to the same set of DB Tables so a direct comparison is pretty easy.

all I can say that is you should setup a POC rig and try it all out for yourself. Then you can make an informed decision for yourself.
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orman
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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smdavies99 wrote:
Speaking from my limited experience (?) the flows that I have ported from V7.0.0.4 to IIB 9.0.0.2 work fine.
All the subflow files were converted to .subflow types
All the common subflow projects were converted to .subflows and Libraries
All of the old Message Flow Projects were converted to applications
All of the flows use at least one local sub-flow

So far all of my testing (some 3 million messages over the past 8 weeks) has proved that everything is fine. I run two VM's (one for 7.0.0.4 and the other for 9.0.0.2) each being fed with the same data. The both write logs and audit data to the same set of DB Tables so a direct comparison is pretty easy.

all I can say that is you should setup a POC rig and try it all out for yourself. Then you can make an informed decision for yourself.

Hey smdavies99,

Thanks for sharing your experience
It really help me for thinking that those changes or OK and I am able to try using it too

I did not want to be the first one who checked that ..

What does it me local sub-flow?
Do you me that in the same Project/Application you got a *.msgflow that uses a *.subflow ?
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smdavies99
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My applications use a combination of Local (to the project) sub-flows and sub-flows in Libraries.

For example, all Inputs are handled by a sub-flow (copied from a template and configured for that flow). This sub-flow uses 4 sub-flows that are contained in two different Library Projects.

This has also been working pretty well on the IIB Next Open Beta.

BUT, as I said, I am using IIB 9.0.0.2 and nott Version 8.0.0.x
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