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| How to trigger a z/OS batch job from Windows Queue Manager |
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| Prithviraj |
 Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:37 pm Post subject: How to trigger a z/OS batch job from Windows Queue Manager |
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Hi all,
I have MQ running on windows and also have MQ explorer(Version: 7.5.0.2) installed in windows.
Now I want to enable trigger on one of the queues in Windows Queue Manager, and it has to trigger one z/OS batch job. I think it is possible because in MQ Explorer, in process definition, I can see "z/OS" in "Application type" drop down menu.
In that case I have following doubts
1) how will I give member(RUNJCL) name in Application ID ? How windows can connect to my mainframe machine, which has another IP, and how can it find the member ?
2) Where should I give RACF credentials ?
3) How to make connectivity between mainframes and Windows ?
I have many more doubts, but I am not posting all my doubts here.
Could someone please explain me how to trigger a BATCH JOB IN z/OS FROM A QUEUE IN WINDOWS
I tried searching the same in internet but was unable to find any helpful links or documents.
Please help me in achieving this.
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| hughson |
| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:50 am Post subject: |
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You need a trigger monitor running in the environment where the application is to run, so you need a trigger monitor that is running on z/OS.
The trigger monitor needs to be able to MQGET a trigger message from its Initiation Queue. Therefore the trigger monitor (which is an MQ application too) needs to be able to connect to a queue manager.
Since the only way to connect to a queue manager from a z/OS application is to connect locally (no client connection from application on z/OS to queue manager somewhere else), the only answer is to have a z/OS queue manager.
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| Prithviraj |
| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:14 am Post subject: |
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Thank you Hughson,
I understood what you had explained. I agree with what you had told, but what made me confused is - "z/OS" is shown as "Application type" in process definition in Windows MQ Explorer for Windows Queue Manager.
"z/OS" is shown as an application type that can be triggered from windows queue manager(as per MQ Explorer Process Definition option) which implies it can be directly triggered by Windows queue manager( which contradicts your reply).
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Since the only way to connect to a queue manager from a z/OS application is to connect locally (no client connection from application on z/OS to queue manager somewhere else), the only answer is to have a z/OS queue manager.
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But how a Queue Manager from z/OS will understand that a message has arrived in windows Queue unless both Windows and z/OS queue managers are brought under one cluster or manually defining channel and transmission queues? So, are you telling that I have to establish such a connection between the queue managers first ? Other than clustering and manually defining channels are there any alternatives?
Could you please let me know different ways of triggering an z/OS batch or CICS from windows queue manager. |
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| hughson |
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| Prithviraj wrote: |
I understood what you had explained. I agree with what you had told, but what made me confused is - "z/OS" is shown as "Application type" in process definition in Windows MQ Explorer for Windows Queue Manager.
"z/OS" is shown as an application type that can be triggered from windows queue manager(as per MQ Explorer Process Definition option) which implies it can be directly triggered by Windows queue manager( which contradicts your reply). |
It is unfortunate that this confusion happened. But trust me, more that the ability to define a process object with Application Type of z/OS is required to successfully trigger an application. It is too large an assumption to make that you can trigger a z/OS application from Windows just because of that definitional anomaly.
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| So, are you telling that I have to establish such a connection between the queue managers first ? |
Yes
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| Other than clustering and manually defining channels are there any alternatives? |
Those are the two options - how many more ways would you like?
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| Could you please let me know different ways of triggering an z/OS batch or CICS from windows queue manager. |
You have been told the way now - there are no different ways - use the mechanism that is provided, another way is not required.
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| bruce2359 |
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The application type PROCESS attribute only describes the platform that the triggered app executes on.
In z/OS, there are a variety of types of work (CICS, IMS, JES batch JCL, TSO, ...); and therefore, there is no single equivalent of runmqtrm for Windows/UNIX.
What kind of z/OS application do you want to launch?
For example, http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGMCP_5.2.0/com.ibm.cics.ts.wmq.adapter.doc/topics/fg13960_.html describes how to start a CICS transaction. This presumes that a message arrives on a z/OS queue-manager triggered queue.
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| bruce2359 |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
The application type PROCESS attribute only describes the platform that the triggered app executes on.
In z/OS, there are a variety of types of work (CICS, IMS, JES batch JCL, TSO, ...); and therefore, there is no single equivalent of runmqtrm for Windows/UNIX.
What kind of z/OS application do you want to launch?
For example, http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGMCP_5.2.0/com.ibm.cics.ts.wmq.adapter.doc/topics/fg13960_.html describes how to start a CICS transaction. This presumes that a message arrives on a z/OS queue-manager triggered queue. |
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24000076 describes supportpac MA12: MQSeries for MVS/ESA - Batch trigger monitor.
Do a bit of research on google for 'z/OS+mq+trigger monitor'.
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| CAONIMA |
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| smdavies99 |
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The last post (from Bruce2359) indicated that the OP should do some googling.
since they never responded we can only assume that the problem was solved.
Were you really asking something like this
I have the same problem. What was the solution used?
Perhaps you would care to elaborate?
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