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pintrader
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:18 pm    Post subject: sender channel substate Reply with quote

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Hi,
What does it means when i see SDR channel retrying and substate is OTHER.?

After that I tried to restart the sender channel, it goes to SSL handshaking substate and then goes to OTHER again.

What are the possible causes ?

I have another similar channel with similar SSL parameters but it manage to establish with the receiver after a long time. I have turned off OCSP in qm.ini, but that doesn't seem to help.

thanks
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: sender channel substate Reply with quote

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pintrader wrote:
Hi,
What does it means when i see SDR channel retrying and substate is OTHER.?

After that I tried to restart the sender channel, it goes to SSL handshaking substate and then goes to OTHER again.

What are the possible causes ?

I have another similar channel with similar SSL parameters but it manage to establish with the receiver after a long time. I have turned off OCSP in qm.ini, but that doesn't seem to help.

thanks

What does the qmgr's error log say?
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pintrader
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: sender channel substate Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
pintrader wrote:
Hi,
What does it means when i see SDR channel retrying and substate is OTHER.?

After that I tried to restart the sender channel, it goes to SSL handshaking substate and then goes to OTHER again.

What are the possible causes ?

I have another similar channel with similar SSL parameters but it manage to establish with the receiver after a long time. I have turned off OCSP in qm.ini, but that doesn't seem to help.

thanks

What does the qmgr's error log say? :innocent:


hi, thanks.

At the sender channel QMGR, the error is amq9259 , connection timeout.

At the receiving QMGR logs, there was nothing logged.

However, at the sending QMGR , they are able to make a telnet connection to receiving QMGR.
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MQsysprog
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi

Have you checked the listener status on the receiver side Qmgr ?
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pintrader
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MQsysprog wrote:
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Have you checked the listener status on the receiver side Qmgr ?

yes, the listener is fine. Or do you mean there is some special attributes that i should take note of for a listener?
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MQsysprog
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi

Well if the listener is active ,probably you have some ssl configuration problem ,i would suggest a further investigation using these instructions :

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21254279
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pintrader
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MQsysprog wrote:
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Well if the listener is active ,probably you have some ssl configuration problem ,i would suggest a further investigation using these instructions :

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21254279


Hi, the strange thing is the channel will be established several minutes later. There are no SSL errors in the logs at both ends.
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MQsysprog
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi

so it will be interesting some additional investigation on the behavior ,for example if we use a no ssl channel between the two qmgr do we measure similar connection times ?
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pintrader
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MQsysprog wrote:
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so it will be interesting some additional investigation on the behavior ,for example if we use a no ssl channel between the two qmgr do we measure similar connection times ?

without SSL seems to be normal. but with SSL, it takes longer to get established.
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MQsysprog
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi

so the issue may be in the ssl handshake process ,a good clue could be the lenght of the keys ,the level of crypt you require ,and last but not the least the network bandwith ...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:39 am    Post subject: Re: sender channel substate Reply with quote

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pintrader wrote:
Hi,
What does it means when i see SDR channel retrying and substate is OTHER.?

After that I tried to restart the sender channel, it goes to SSL handshaking substate and then goes to OTHER again.

What are the possible causes ?

Please help us understand this better.

Are you saying that without SSL the channels enter RUNNING state immediately, but with SSL it takes a few seconds longer? One minute longer? Five minutes longer?

Is this your first or only SSL channel? Is this behavior limited to only one SSL channel? Or is this behavior consistent for all SSL channels?
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