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pintrader
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:10 pm    Post subject: Rogue Authentication record Reply with quote

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Joined: 22 Jan 2014
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hi,
I created an authentication record using set authrec.
Here's a dump of what the command look like

SET AUTHREC +
PROFILE('SYSTEM.BASE.TOPIC') +
GROUP('Domain Users@MyDomain') +
OBJTYPE(TOPIC) +
AUTHADD(NONE)

when I try to delete this authrec,

DELETE AUTHREC PROFILE('SYSTEM.BASE.TOPIC') GROUP('Domain Users@MyDomain') OBJTYPE(TOPIC)
AMQ8871: Entity, principal or group not known.


How can i delete this rogue record, even though it has been successfully "created" ?
thanks
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Display the authrec. Post the results here.
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pintrader
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disciple

Joined: 22 Jan 2014
Posts: 164

bruce2359 wrote:
Display the authrec. Post the results here.


hi, i use dmpmqcfg to dump out the config. this is what i have already posted. I just want to delete this particular record.


SET AUTHREC +
PROFILE('SYSTEM.BASE.TOPIC') +
GROUP('Domain Users@MyDomain') +
OBJTYPE(TOPIC) +
AUTHADD(NONE)



I also have difficulty removing it from MQexplorer. It says
'Unknown group Domain Users@MyDomain' AMQ4808

Why can't it just delete what unknown group there is? If its an unknown group, why allow me to create it in the first place?
thanks
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Because if the group was deleted in AD and then rebuilt, the group name might be the same but the SSID will not be. MQ records the SSID.
I believe the capability to deleted unknown SSID's comes with MQ 8...

If amqoamd -s -m qgmr displays those you should see the actual SSID as it does not match any group.

Before V8, if you want to get rid of those records it's a matter of delete and recreate the qmgr...

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pintrader
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disciple

Joined: 22 Jan 2014
Posts: 164

fjb_saper wrote:
Because if the group was deleted in AD and then rebuilt, the group name might be the same but the SSID will not be. MQ records the SSID.
I believe the capability to deleted unknown SSID's comes with MQ 8...


hi thanks. Domain Users has always been there since the Active Directory was set up and is not being deleted and rebuilt.


fjb_saper wrote:

Before V8, if you want to get rid of those records it's a matter of delete and recreate the qmgr...

Have fun :innocent:

thanks. I think I will raise PMR and see what they say. I cannot just freely delete and recreate the Qmgr because its already running in production. cheers
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pintrader
PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disciple

Joined: 22 Jan 2014
Posts: 164

Supposedly, as adviced by the authorities, is to try not to create groups with spaces. They have provided me a fix.
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