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| telesguilherme |
 Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:52 am Post subject: SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR |
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Acolyte
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Dear All,
I just created a cluster in my environment, with both channels connecting, listener ok, but one of the queue managers is with:
SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR
What it could be ? |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:10 am Post subject: Re: SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR |
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| telesguilherme wrote: |
| What it could be ? |
A fault in your cluster where one of the queue manager names can't be resolved.
Your channels are not doing as well as you think they are.
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| telesguilherme |
| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Acolyte
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Dear All,
Thanks for the reply.
Problem persists |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| telesguilherme wrote: |
| Problem persists |
If you've not changed anything it would. These things are seldom fixed by the Cluster Fairy (a distant relative of the Tooth Fairy with deeper technical skills but a poor work ethic).
So after reviewing your set up and the link provided by my worthy associate what did you determine? What actions did you take? What changes have you made?
We don't know anything about your situation that you don't tell us
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| telesguilherme |
| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Acolyte
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I´m really sorry.
Node one:
server: asbrokerprofap02
queue manager: fapes_mq
display clusqmgr(*)
1 : display clusqmgr(*)
AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
CLUSQMGR(SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR.desfap01.fapes-sede.com.br(1414))
CHANNEL(emi.fapes_mq) CLUSTER(fapes)
AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
CLUSQMGR(fapes_mq) CHANNEL(rece.fapes_mq)
CLUSTER(fapes)
Node two:
server: asbrokerdesfap01
queue manager: fapes_mq
display clusqmgr(*)
1 : display clusqmgr(*)
AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
CLUSQMGR(SYSTEM.TEMPQMGR.profap02.fapes-sede.com.br(1414))
CHANNEL(rece.fapes_mq) CLUSTER(fapes)
AMQ8441: Display Cluster Queue Manager details.
CLUSQMGR(fapes_mq) CHANNEL(emi.fapes_mq)
CLUSTER(fapes)
1. Both has the same QM name
2. Both has the same queue´s names
3. Both listeners are running on port 1414
4. Channels are communicating, and without the local address, only cluster parameters and connection name to the hostname and port (1414) |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| telesguilherme wrote: |
| 1. Both has the same QM name |
If you have 2 queue managers with the same name in the same cluster that's a really, really bad idea & I'd be interested to know how you decided it wasn't. Even if it's not the cause of this problem it'll be the cause of others.
I repeat my comments on your previous posts about thinking about what you need, what you're doing and not just setting stuff up & fiddling with it until it seems to work. You especially seem very confused about what a WMQ cluster is, how it works, what it's supposed to achieve and what it doesn't ever achieve (like HA).
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| telesguilherme |
| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Well Vitor, Im sorry again 
I need to make a load balance backend.
I also have not found the issues with the queue manager with same name, but i know ibm dont recommend it |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| gbaddeley |
| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| telesguilherme wrote: |
Well Vitor, Im sorry again
I need to make a load balance backend.
I also have not found the issues with the queue manager with same name, but i know ibm dont recommend it |
For proper load balancing using MQ clustering you need at least 3 queue managers, 2 on the back end (consumer apps), and 1 on the front end (producer app).
DO NOT use queue managers with the same name, especially in MQ clusters. Please delete your queue managers and start again.
HTH, Glenn (19 years experience with MQ, holder of all IBM MQ certifications) |
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| telesguilherme |
| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Dear All,
thanks for the repply, answers and help and also patience.
All working now. Rebuild with QM´s different names.
My last question is how to set up a gateway QM |
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| rammer |
| Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| telesguilherme wrote: |
Dear All,
thanks for the repply, answers and help and also patience.
All working now. Rebuild with QM´s different names.
My last question is how to set up a gateway QM |
The MQ Info Centre has a god section on Gateway Queue Managers, with various helpful diagrams. |
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| gbaddeley wrote: |
| telesguilherme wrote: |
Well Vitor, Im sorry again
I need to make a load balance backend.
I also have not found the issues with the queue manager with same name, but i know ibm dont recommend it |
For proper load balancing using MQ clustering you need at least 3 queue managers, 2 on the back end (consumer apps), and 1 on the front end (producer app).
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I guess you can load balance with just 2 queue managers as of MQ 7 if CLWLUSEQ is set to ANY.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| telesguilherme wrote: |
| My last question is how to set up a gateway QM |
Why do you think you need one? In the "what's the requirement" sense?
Remember, we only know what you tell us.
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| telesguilherme |
| Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Acolyte
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Everyone,
Thank very very much, i will end this topic here, and continue in another one, because the main problem about this one, was fixed. |
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