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eva555
PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:32 pm    Post subject: Duplicate queue manager names Reply with quote

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I know its a very bad idea to have duplicate qmgr names in a network. But we have an unavoidable situation in qmgr migration.

Only half of the applications would be connecting to the migrated qmgr and other half needs to connect to the old qmgr. And both qmgr needs to be with the same name. Its a DQM set up and both the old and migrated server are not sharing a VIP.

Will this still cause issues in message flows?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are these queue managers going to be in a cluster? If so, bad idea! If not, why the necessity to have the same name - hard-coded in the apps perchance?
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eva555
PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They are not in clusters.

Actually its an old interface and we are not sure how many and how they connect to the qmgr. The known interface we migrate and rest are to connect to the old qmgr... But all of these qmgrs are NOT part of any MQ clusters. Its totally a distributed queueing
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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eva555 wrote:
Actually its an old interface and we are not sure how many and how they connect to the qmgr. The known interface we migrate and rest are to connect to the old qmgr... But all of these qmgrs are NOT part of any MQ clusters. Its totally a distributed queueing

So find out how they are connected. If it's hard coded you've been painted into a corner; if not, use a new name for your queue manager.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Technically there are no issues if the VIPs/PORT are going to be different but operationally you may have difficulties while deciding which server to logon and check the issue.
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queuemanager wrote:
Technically there are no issues if the VIPs/PORT are going to be different but operationally you may have difficulties while deciding which server to logon and check the issue.

And you have hit the nail squarely on the head...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Would you consider an alias queue manager, if you can't reconcile hard coding?
(Just a thought)
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rcp_mq wrote:
Would you consider an alias queue manager, if you can't reconcile hard coding?
(Just a thought)

If the apps bind there's no way to 'fool' the app with a different name, and if the apps are client and passing a specific name that's been hard-coded then same thing. Queue manager aliases are more an internal routing/rerouting mechanism.
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