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| rahunha |
 Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:56 am Post subject: Creating WMB V8 for Windows MSCS environment |
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Hello,
I have been trying to create a clustered environment for Version 8 with Windows Server 2003 Failover Cluster Manager Version 6.1.
MQ Version is 7.5 and is running as 32-bit. WMB is installed as 64-bit.
I have been following the instructions as here:
.../wmbhelp/v8r0m0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.etools.mft.doc%2Fbe13800_.htm
Everything is created and running normally on the first node (where createbroker is executed), but when moving the services to the second node (where the addbrokerinstance is executed), broker does not come up.
Error message in Event log is trivial (running out of memory or userid is not belonging to local mqbrks group).
I have been trying to use either local userid or domain userid (in mqbrks group), with same result.
Has anyone experienced the same issue before?
BR, Hannu |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:05 am Post subject: |
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So you validated the MSCS cluster itself before you tried to create the queue manager or broker?
And you validated that the qmgr fails over?
And both machines are primary domain controllers? |
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| rahunha |
| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
what do you mean by validating MSCS?
MSCS config is working and failover is working with MQ QueueManager and shared remote disk.
When I add the broker for the MSCS config, it won't startup on the second node.
Servers are not primary domain controllers, but they belong to the same domain. Why should they be PDC?
/ Hannu |
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:45 am Post subject: |
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I've seen this sort of thing before and it is usually down to the group membership of the user that is going to run broker. AIAIK, it has to be a member of the domain admins.
I don't have my details set of docs with me that cover all this so I am relying on my memory here.
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:47 am Post subject: |
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| rahunha wrote: |
Hi,
what do you mean by validating MSCS? |
| rahunha wrote: |
| MSCS config is working and failover is working with MQ QueueManager and shared remote disk. |
That's what I mean.
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| When I add the broker for the MSCS config, it won't startup on the second node. |
You've said that there are a variety of different errors that occur. Is it really a different error each time, or is it one error until you change something and then a different error?
If you are able to resolve one error and then encounter another, it suggests that you haven't fully completed the necessary config steps to create the broker and qmgr on the shared file system, or that the HA failover is not failing over the proper things.
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Servers are not primary domain controllers, but they belong to the same domain. Why should they be PDC?
/ Hannu |
Make sure you're at v8.0.0.2. There have been previous requirements that MI brokers, at least, had to be PDCs on Windows. I know you're not using MI, but some of the requirements may still exist.
IF you're not at 8.0.0.2, upgrade and try again. If that still doesn't work, open a PMR to verify that you don't need to be using PDCs for your configuration. |
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| rahunha |
| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:49 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
thanks of your reply. I try to get the userid added for the domain admins.
- in IBM's own documention, they mention only that userid must be part of the local mqbrkrs group and that I have done
/ Hannu |
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| rahunha |
| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:53 am Post subject: |
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We are running the 8.0.0.2 level.
There is no other error than the one, I described above.
This can't not be any MSCS or MQ related issue, since they work normally in failover. As soons as I add the broker service and try failover, the error is created. When I move the services for the first node, WMB is running normally again. |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| rahunha wrote: |
We are running the 8.0.0.2 level.
There is no other error than the one, I described above.
This can't not be any MSCS or MQ related issue, since they work normally in failover. As soons as I add the broker service and try failover, the error is created. When I move the services for the first node, WMB is running normally again. |
The error you described above was one of at least two errors,
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| Error message in Event log is trivial (running out of memory or userid is not belonging to local mqbrks group). |
It's Windows. Did you reboot the second machine after changing the group definitions?
Again, I recommend you open a PMR and validate your config for the purposes of Broker HA under MSCS, including that you are not using PDCs. |
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| rahunha |
| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| This is resolved now. On the second node, wmb user did not have needed access rights to the log directory. In Windows Server 2008, the authority admin is much more complex it used to be before. You need to use lcacls command. Case is closed. |
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| jithendra2 |
| Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:39 pm Post subject: Hello BR, Hannu |
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can you please share me the steps for WMB MSCS
Thanks & regards
Jithendra |
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like the Op (rahunha) has stopped posting here.
Have to read this post and made sure that the MSCS part is working first?
What have you done that is different to what is documented?
To be honest, just asking for the steps is only a very small part of the work that you need to do to get this working. If you are not skilled in MQ and Broker AND Windows then you might as well give up and find someone who knows what they are doing.
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| jithendra2 |
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