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bruce2359
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqxplorer wrote:

Is there a way we can get accounting inof like no of puts and gets at any given time for a particular queue?

The supportpac implements a GUI in the Explorer product to display collected statistics and accounting data - the same native statistics and accounting data that replies to your other post suggested.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
mqxplorer wrote:

Is there a way we can get accounting inof like no of puts and gets at any given time for a particular queue?

The supportpac implements a GUI in the Explorer product to display collected statistics and accounting data - the same native statistics and accounting data that replies to your other post suggested.


I am getting the stats, however, my concern is I am not getting the data updated when I am still connected to the queue manager using the client app, in this case it is RFHUtil. I want the stas updated automatically when I refresh the Events and Statistics tab in explorer whic is not happening. I am still reading about this stats in info center.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Use the "flush statistics" item in the Explorer, or the RESET QMGR(STATISTICS) command in runmqsc, to flush the currently-collected statistics instead of waiting for the next interval.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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markt wrote:
Use the "flush statistics" item in the Explorer, or the RESET QMGR(STATISTICS) command in runmqsc, to flush the currently-collected statistics instead of waiting for the next interval.


Thanks for the reply. Your suggestion made my life easy about stats, however, I am still struggling with accounting data. Based on the info I read in the document written byb the author of MS0P supportpac, I have this info..

Code:
Statistics show queue manager operations, such as how many messages have been put or got in each collection interval.


Code:
Accounting events show the activity of each application that has been connected to the queue manager, again showing how many messages have been put or got, and which queues have been accessed.


This means the accounting information should show the applications' conectivity actions to the queue manager along with the stats info.. Is that correct?

When I follow your suggestion the stats are updated as I expected, however, I cannot see the accounting Records updated when the client application (in this case it is RFHUtil) is still connected to the queue manager. Should I have to make any configuration changes to have the accounting information displayed as statistics records (like real time).

I have reado some more documentation..

Code:
Accounting messages are generated upon the disconnection of the application from
the queue manager, either upon the execution of the MQDISC operation, or
implicity by the queue manager upon the recognition of the termination of the
application.


Intermediate accounting messages are also written for long running WebSphere
MQ applications when the interval since the connection was established or since
the last intermediate accounting message that was written exceeds the configured
interval.


The first point is proved when I disconnected RFHUtil, however, the second point.. I could not prove it. I made the accounting interval just to 2 minutes and I was expecting that the accounting records will be updated after 2 minutes when refreshed even though the client 9RFHUtil) is still connected which did not happen. Am I missing something? I have been going through various documents about this.. I am out of luck. Could you help me understand this bit more?

Thakns in advance for your help.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi Mark, I just started to use MS0P. Great work. I watched the youtube presentation about Remote Administration. I see you used your own username to connect to the remote server. In our firm, we are not allowed direct access to any server. As the MQ Admin, we must login using our AD account, then sudo su - mqm

Can I assume your userid is added to the mqm user group?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LouML wrote:
Hi Mark, I just started to use MS0P. Great work. I watched the youtube presentation about Remote Administration. I see you used your own username to connect to the remote server. In our firm, we are not allowed direct access to any server. As the MQ Admin, we must login using our AD account, then sudo su - mqm

Can I assume your userid is added to the mqm user group?


There's no reason to assume that.

His MQ Explorer configuration could have SSL set up, and there is an appropriate MCAUSER and SSLPEER on the channel in question.

For the purposes of the demo on youtube, I doubt he went to the trouble, but it is always the wrong idea to add a user to the mqm group on anything other than a development workstation.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can somebody answer my question about Accounting Records...?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What question?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
What question?


The question I posted justb above LouML ...

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LouML
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
LouML wrote:
Hi Mark, I just started to use MS0P. Great work. I watched the youtube presentation about Remote Administration. I see you used your own username to connect to the remote server. In our firm, we are not allowed direct access to any server. As the MQ Admin, we must login using our AD account, then sudo su - mqm

Can I assume your userid is added to the mqm user group?


There's no reason to assume that.

His MQ Explorer configuration could have SSL set up, and there is an appropriate MCAUSER and SSLPEER on the channel in question.


What channel? Isn't SSH just connecting to the server outside of MQ? I can get it to connect with my userid and I see the queue managers, but I get permission errors when I try to display an error log.

mqjeff wrote:
For the purposes of the demo on youtube, I doubt he went to the trouble, but it is always the wrong idea to add a user to the mqm group on anything other than a development workstation.


As for the 'SSH Certificate Store', there's nothing in the documenation about it. Is this supposed to be the default Windows store, or specific to MQ Explorer? When I click on the 'Browse' button next to the 'SSH Certificate Store', nothing happens. I can paste a directory path into the field but don't know what to put in.

I should clarify, we're running MQ Explorer on WIndows XP and our queue managers are on Solaris servers.
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LouML wrote:
mqjeff wrote:
LouML wrote:
Hi Mark, I just started to use MS0P. Great work. I watched the youtube presentation about Remote Administration. I see you used your own username to connect to the remote server. In our firm, we are not allowed direct access to any server. As the MQ Admin, we must login using our AD account, then sudo su - mqm

Can I assume your userid is added to the mqm user group?


There's no reason to assume that.

His MQ Explorer configuration could have SSL set up, and there is an appropriate MCAUSER and SSLPEER on the channel in question.


What channel? Isn't SSH just connecting to the server outside of MQ?


It depends on what you meant by "remote server".

There's no reason to keep this discussion, or the other one, clogging up Mark's announcement thread.
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