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| RocknRambo |
 Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:32 am Post subject: Msg Set | MB v7 |
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I'm trying to get more into Message Set and Msg Definition, can anyone throw some light here ?
I would like to create a Shared Msg Set with msg defn which can reused in other msg sets, some thing similar to sub flows. Does the tool allow to create that way ? cross reference a msg set and import/include a msg defn from other msg set ?
for ex: custom SOAP fault msg.
Thanks
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:39 am Post subject: |
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1. Write your WSDL.
2. Import your WSDL into a MessageSet.
3. Use full words, we don't use cell phones here.
4. Read the InfoCentre.
5. Take the training class.
6. Use Trace nodes.
7. Do not use the interactive debugger.
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| kimbert |
| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Location: Southampton
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| I'm trying to get more into Message Set and Msg Definition, can anyone throw some light here ? |
Well, I got into it ten years ago, and never escaped. Not sure whether that helps... 
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| I would like to create a Shared Msg Set with msg defn which can reused in other msg sets, some thing similar to sub flows. Does the tool allow to create that way ? |
No - message sets are standalone models. This is often a good thing, although it can be annoying sometimes.
The best answer is: move to v8, where message sets are not used, and schemas are deployed directly to the application. Then you could get into DFDL instead of message sets - fun for all the family! |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:47 am Post subject: |
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v8 can store message definitions, whether as DFDL schemas or XML schemas (yes, kimbert...) in libraries that can be referenced from other libraries.
XML schemas can reference other XML Schemas.
DFDL schemas can reference other DFDL schemas. |
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| kimbert |
| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:53 am Post subject: |
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OK, I'd hate to disappoint mqjeff, so here goes...
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| whether as DFDL schemas or XML schemas |
A DFDL xsd is just a normal xsd that happens to contain some XSD annotations. You can use it anywhere that you would use an xsd, because it *is* an xsd. |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| kimbert wrote: |
OK, I'd hate to disappoint mqjeff, so here goes...
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| whether as DFDL schemas or XML schemas |
A DFDL xsd is just a normal xsd that happens to contain some XSD annotations. You can use it anywhere that you would use an xsd, because it *is* an xsd. |
I was unclear.
I was attempting to acknowledge this fact and thus *prevent* you from explaining it.
oh well. |
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| RocknRambo |
| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Kimbert and mqjeff, this helps. I shall doing the search for migration strategies for v8, has IBM come up with any redpapers or redbooks on the migration v8 ?
(* And thanks to lancelotlinc for the great pointing to 'Use Trace nodes') 
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| kimbert |
| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| I was attempting to acknowledge this fact and thus *prevent* you from explaining it. |
I realised that you were doing that, and was attempting to come across as an annoyingly pedantic person.
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